LOL DAILY MAIL.

Quote:

The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.

Nice right wing propaganda there. It's to be expected from the Daily Mail of course. The newspaper for elite. Typical response from Daily Mail reader after reading that article:

"Pip pip, the proles are are it again."

What makes this article even more hilarious is the fact that the Tories claim all this and then do absolutely fuck all about social issues.

ALSO

This article is misleading. It states Britain and then the United Kingdom, interchanging between them both. Since they are both different i don't know what to believe.

Clearly the journalists for the Daily Mail are as stupid as their reader base.

Never change Daily Mail.

EDIT: Also this article is 3 years old.

EDIT2: and in fact, a recent article actually posted on the 17th December 2012 as opposed to July 2009 (however it's understandable why it has been posted, there seem to be a lot of sources bringing up the same 3 year old article for some odd reason) states that America is the most violent country in the world.

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php/usa-war-on-terror/2130-how-america-the-worlds-most-violent-country-slaughters-children-at-home-and-abroad

Quote:

EACH TIME there is an outbreak of homicidal mania, whether Columbine, Virginia Tech, or Adam Lanza’s slaughter of twenty eight innocents in Connecticut, the media directs us to stories about gun control and the need for better policing of individuals with mental illnesses. The larger context—that America is a society brimming over with violence—is entirely lost in the discussion. There are 192 million firearms owned by Americans, more than any other society in the world.Our rate of death from firearms is three times that of France and Canada, fourteen times greater than Ireland, and two hundred and fifty times greater than Japan, where firearms are aggressively controlled. The U.S. has more prisoners, per capita, than any country on earth—three times more than Cuba, seven times more than Germany—and, indeed, we house twenty-five percent of all the prisoners in the world. As for media violence, by the time the average American child leaves elementary school, they will have witnessed 8,000 murders and over 100,000 other acts of violence, and, to rub more salt into these open wounds, the U.S. also leads the world in the sale and rental of violent video games. That litany of statistics comes to us compliments of our gratuitous interpretations of the First and Second Amendments. But the forest we are talking grows ever larger. Since World War II, the United States engaged in over fifty military operations abroad killing some four million people (Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Grenada, Panama, the list goes on). If you add in to that total massacres by proxies and surrogates, the number flirts with five million (Indonesia, Chile, Guatemala, and elsewhere). We are the only country in the world seemingly perpetually at war. In 2011-2012 alone, the United States was killing people in nine different countries: Iraq and Afghanistan with troops, Libya with rockets, Somalia, Pakistan, and Yemen with drones, Honduras with raids against drug cartels, the Philippines with air support against insurgents, and most recently in Kenya as 150 Special forces started their operations. No other country in the world can boast of so many military involvements. To remedy the horrors we saw in Connecticut should not be limited to screening mentally ill individuals from purchasing Glocks—which is about as far as our craven mainstream media wishes to venture. Instead we need to recognize the massacres of Jonestown, Columbine, Virginia Tech, and Connecticut are merely symptoms of a much more ubiquitous cancer. To finally address this problem is to begin a long and arduous process of cultivating a culture of peace. Such collective psychotherapy begins by treating the patient on many fronts and in a multi-dimensional way: To forbid the sale of handguns, nationwide; to ration the sale of ammunition; to prohibit the sale of violent toys to children (Greece already does), to aggressively control the sale and access of violent video games to children (Australia, Venezuela, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, and Brazil already do), and to prohibit the broadcast of violent scenes, explicit or implicit, on network television during family viewing hours, a practice already in effect in many European countries And, who knows, we might even take it one step further and retreat from our aspirations of empire and global hegemony, close down our military operations, and bring our vast armies and armadas home —over 400,000 Americans at last count stationed in almost 1,000 overseas military bases. Russia has ten overseas military bases. China none. So much room to grow! Imagine our progressive President, instead of limiting his compassion to the shedding of a tear at a press conference, actually proposed comprehensive and revolutionary changes and legislation that focussed not on the symptoms but, at long last, finally started to address the disease itself.

Never change USA. Albeit the article seems very biased based on its source.

@om*d wrote:

Again, yes the US is a violent country, but my personal experience is that there are other more violent countries. I don't give a shit what some dumb newspaper article states, because all media is biased. I mean, in my own travels I have been to at least 10 countries that are far more violent than the US. Sure, it seems worse to other countries because the US is a great country and everyone else wants to knock us down a rung on the ladder by saying "Oh, America isn't so great after all, they have terrible issues with violence, poverty, etc." What country doesn't have it's issues though? I think the thing that is missed every time we have discussions about violence in the US is this key point : The violence of the US is widely known because of our position on the world stage, because of the vast adoption of American culture and the media in other countries placing blame on the US because it appeals to their demographics. If Russia won out in the Cold War it would be 'Never change Russia', if the Germany won WWII it would be 'Never change Third Reich' and if the UK never lost its Empire and was still Number 1 in the world all of us Americans would be making fun of the UK. Never change planet Earth. As long as you all complain about the US, we will be number 1. Don't hate.

I WAS joking but if you want to make this a serious thing then fine.

I like the USA, it's one of my favorite places on Earth but it still has problems.

I completely disagree with your sentiment of "oh everywhere has these problems". Just because everywhere has those problems doesn't mean those problems are in any way acceptable. You can't just throw them away as points against the USA because it happens everywhere. That shit is terrible everywhere and personally If it came up in conversation I would say the same about other places. It's just the fact that the USA is the place which is predominantly spoken about. I wouldn't deny that the UK has problems with violence. Hell I live in the "hate capital of the western world" and that is not something that I say proudly, living in a country of racists and hateful people.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland-hate-capital-of-western-world-13411576.html

and I will further say that the hatred against them is totally irrational. Especially against immigrants. Unlike Britain we didn't get people coming from the colonies so the black population is very much a minority here - talking like 1-2000 people. Yet they get hated on and abuse flung at them - most people who live here haven't even seen a black person in real life yet they hate them for some stupid fucking reason - probably just because they are different to them. Ireland I know for certain from my studies has serious poverty problems as well.

However i can admit these problems. I don't say: "WELL EVERYONE IS JUST HATIN' CAUSE WE THE BEST IN THE WORLD OR BECAUSE WE NUMBER ONE AND EVERYONE KNOWS US."

Honestly, see if i didn't browse the internet i would probably not know anything about news in the USA. It is so infrequently talked about on television and very rarely in local newspapers - the only thing that did get coverage even locally for us was the shooting in Connecticut. No one here really cares what goes on in the USA, it's only when you step outside into the rest of the world that people comment.

EDIT: and you as an American should know that the shit that people say is not true. Like "hurr durr Amerifats are so fat". Americans are no fatter than the populace of any other country. I never hear anything about from stupid shit like this - well that's not true, sometimes your gun policy is criticised but it is totally acceptable for us to do that - we aren't browbeat into it by the government - and indeed the news when it is reported here isn't like the USA - on television news here there is very little bias - the story is just told based on the facts - it's not like the USA where you have Fox News and say it was about climate change and all the way through they are like HAHAHA THESE IDIOTS THINK THIS IS REAL. That does not happen on news reporting here. There are no opinions given or no opinions fed to everyone. The facts on television news are just given...and newspapers are very similar - though they lean slightly more to their political affiliations - they simply report stories and given their slant on it - they again do not start mocking certain groups or people in the stories. I know Fox News is extreme but I do know there is more than one news outlet in the USA which does shit like that.

My one big problem with the USA - the fact that it tries to police the world.

That it throws troops into any nation to "keep the peace".

"NO COUNTRY X YOU CANNOT HAVE MISSILES" says the USA as it probably has one of largest amount of missiles of any country.

Shit like this annoys me. Like it's up to the USA to decide how the world works.

That is basically my only problem with the USA apart from it's guns and other stuff but that isn't a problem for me per se because i don't live there. I am talking about what it does with regards to other countries and their relationships.