The general consensus within this thread seems to indicate that christians seem to pick and choose what they believe in.

I agree it's totally true and of course large parts do contradict eachother which doesn't really help its cause - albeit not surprising considering many of the books were written decades/centuries apart. But if that is the case why is the persecution of gay people still so high in their agenda and not prohibiting tattoos like Cattivo said or slavery any of the other things they have ignored.

They really do seem to pick and choose their agenda and i can see someone raising the slavery point or think my point with it is stupid - "well they can't do that anymore, they can't say slavery is good because it's enshrined in law that you cannot have slaves"

However that is identical to the homosexuality point and it can be pointed at from the same angle.

If gay marriage was legal then they couldn't harp on about persecuting homosexuals just as they can't promote slavery because it's illegal. I imagine there would be a period of acceptance that would have to build to it but it's really the same sort of thing. Persecution of homosexuals could just as easily be ignored just as permitting slavery has been.

Just a thought.

Greg the White wrote:

It's just easier to hate is all. It's easier to paint some angry, self-affirming sign, and stand outside to fight your moral crusade than to organize free meals for the poor.

Yeah i guess and it's sad really because they often try to paint the view that they are kind and loving people when they are basically just a hate machine and a group of (mostly) bigots.

The-Excel wrote:

Greg the White wrote: It's just easier to hate is all. It's easier to paint some angry, self-affirming sign, and stand outside to fight your moral crusade than to organize free meals for the poor. It's actually harder to hate because you need to be specific about it to have impact. "I love gay people" carries less weight because no one will ask why you do. When you say "I hate gay people," then people get defensive and ask what you have against them. ALSO: http://www.theonion.com/articles/god-angrily-clarifies-dont-kill-rule,222/ Quote: "To be honest, there's some contradictory stuff in there, okay?" God said. "So I can see how it could be pretty misleading. I admit it—My bad. I did My best to inspire them, but a lot of imperfect human agents have misinterpreted My message over the millennia. Frankly, much of the material that got in there is dogmatic, doctrinal bullshit. I turn My head for a second and, suddenly, all this stuff about homosexuality gets into Leviticus, and everybody thinks it's God's will to kill gays. It absolutely drives Me up the wall."

Lol The Onion.

Cattivo wrote:

Greg the White wrote: It's easier to paint some angry, self-affirming sign, and stand outside to fight your moral crusade than to organize free meals for the poor. I'm not going to disagree with your point, as it is true for many Christians, but in our rush to criticize how hypocritical Christians can be, we should not dismiss the large amount of charity Christians do, especially as NGOs, such as the Catholic Charities organization. There are numerous Christians helping the poor, but the loudmouths obsessed with the issues of homosexuals get all the attention because of how vocal they happen to be.

You say Christians helping the poor but do they really do that? Throughout the years i went to church and my time in school where teams were sent out to "help" all they seemed to do it for it their own benefit.

I'm quite a cynical person so it may just be my warped mind thinking this but it's hard to ignore it when my old school takes groups to Malawi (christian groups i will add) to "help people" and in fact they are going for work experience and in helping people all they are actually doing is finding something to stick on their CV.

"Oh look at me i went to poor countries and helped them. Give me a job".

....but sure yes they do help them i can't deny that, they try to improve their lives. Bravo for them. I would never give to Christian charities though? Why? Because i don't support these Christians to be helping them while simulatenously shoving Christianity down their throats.

I donate money to charity to help people NOT to send missionaries over to preach to people. It's absolute bullshit.

I must state as well that all these things i have witnessed. I am not just conjuring up some non-existent argument to "hate on Christians". If they didn't do these things i wouldn't even mention this.