I get tired of the bitching about the bad economy and lack of jobs, and the whining about bs that parents and older generations tell younger generations, etc, etc. All generations give tons of bs to their children, you just have to not believe it all and follow it like some stupid lemming. This is not some new phenomenon, its just that we live at a time where more people are aware and are able to communicate about it on a much larger and more visible scale. The millennials and whatever generations come after will get their chance to fuck shit up as well. Such things are inevitable.

Most people go to college for stupid useless things that will never get them a good paying job, because either too many people are doing the same thing or because they want to do something they like instead of something useful. It's lazy thinking and planning, with not much thought of the future and an expectation of instant results.

And yes, people are getting becoming more and more lazy, but that is a result of advances in technology and the comforts it brings to us.

By doing simple things like researching the job market, and looking at the history of what skills, fields and trades are almost always in demand, you can increase your chances of finding a decent, good paying job by 100 percent.

It has also been said earlier that knowing when to seize an opportunity is important. I agree with that completely and would go so far as to say that they should teach children how to spot and seize worthwhile opportunities, as that would be a great skill in terms of being a successful member of the workforce.

So basically, quit the fucking negative whining and bitching, be smart, be shrewd, think positive and apply yourself 100 percent to what you are doing and you will be successful.

Fighter_McWarrior wrote:

Hey, @om, how long has it been since you were in the job market with limited experience? You can correct me if I'm mistaken in this, but you seem like someone who hasn't had to deal with it for a while.

For the past 3 years I have been going from job to job, because my experience does not apply to what is available where I am. I also worked at a Walmart for about a year. I have also done food service, construction, landscaping, packaging, driving a taxi and many other jobs where there really was no way to move up in position, mostly because other people did not want their jobs to be at risk so they hold the new people back.

Fighter_McWarrior wrote:

Even the business majors I know are having a hard time getting jobs because the few good, secure ones that are available aren't be readily given to less experienced grads. In case you hadn't noticed, we're in a recession. And the demographic that always struggles the most in recessions are young people looking to enter the job market with less experience than their adult counterparts.

Don't forget that many older people with tons of experience also lose out because they are both too old and too experienced.

If you really, badly, want a good job, you will do almost anything necessary to get into one. I actually lied to get my current job, as I had zero experience in the field I am currently in. I did some research online, enough so I could bullshit my way in and then I busted my ass learning the ropes, watching the other employees and doing more research and study at home that will supplement the skills I am developing at work right now.

I might add that both of my grandfathers had to do the same thing, as did my father and at least two of my uncles, that I know of. My point is, if you really want a job, you will make it happen.

Fighter_McWarrior wrote:

Because I would be willing to bet that most people go to school for either business or education, which are supposed to be two of the most marketable degrees.

Business and education, yeah... I will have to say that as degrees, they are not the greatest.

I know a lot of people who have have degrees in business, and most of those people are managers(or even lower in the chain) at shitty retail stores. It seems like an awful waste( at least to me) to spend a few years getting a degree and then having to work in retail. But some people have to do it. Also, a lot of retail places move people up from within, so you have to get in at the bottom, even with that degree. This goes back to working hard. If you have the degree and you are already in the door, your chances are already better. Be social, make friends within and try as much as you can to move up.

As far as education, well, that field is a huge fucking mess right now. I have a lot of friends and acquaintances who are working part time as substitute teachers and tutors. It has been pretty tough to get a job in that field for many years now, as the entire structure of education is going through huge changes as far as they way people are employed.

Fighter_McWarrior wrote:

Hell, at the university I got my degree from, the College of Business had it's own building and got a separate graduation ceremony because they put out more kids each year than everyone else combined.

That is a huge problem. I would have to say if you see so many people in school for the same thing, you'd have to be a dumbass not to change your major to something else. Obviously it will be harder to get a job if everyone else is trying to do the same fucking things. And that does make those degrees a little less useful, if there are more people around with them.

Fighter_McWarrior wrote:

Like volunteering on campaigns from the time you're a teenager? Because that's how I got my opportunity.

Yes, volunteering is a great idea, especially if it can turn into a paying job. As great as it is to volunteer though, not all avenues there lead to jobs, so you have to be smart about what you pick.

Fighter_McWarrior wrote:

You're right that working hard on opportunities when you can is extremely important, but that didn't save me from spending a year working at Wal-Mart. That had less to do with my "useless degree" or any lack of want on my part to roll up my sleeves and work, and more to do with the nearly 20% unemployment rate in central Illinois at the time I graduated. So, I guess what I'm saying is that we have every right to bitch about the economy. It sucks. A positive attitude certainly helps, and you should definitely have one, but it doesn't change the fact that the world economy is in the shitter right now, and you'd be an idiot to think that it doesn't make job hunting harder.

You can always move to find work. Don't have the money? Hitchhike, be homeless for a while, do what you have to. Take odd jobs, save, save, save.

Bitch all you want about the economy, I won't stop you. I just tire of hearing about it from time to time. But keep in mind that the US still has one of, if not the best economy in the world and you could be living in a shithole somewhere else starving to death and having to deal with some sort of conflict. Be grateful for what you have, for the opportunities that are available, even if you don't always get those opportunities yourself. People still want to come to the US from all over the world because of those opportunities.

I had my first jobs at 10 years old. I did weeding and other garden work and I also washed and detailed boats.