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The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

I agree with all those points. However, I would also like points to be the same value in all countries, regardless of currency differences. Basically, if 1000 points is worth $10 in the US, it should cost $10 in every other country, regardless of currency.

Are you kidding me?? Saying something should cost $10 flat out everywhere, regardless of currency, shows very little economic knowledge. There is actual value to currency, you know, and so 10 US dollars is very different than 10 Euros or even 10 Canadian dollars now. Instead, there should be a more realistic conversion to the same value, not the same dollar amount. Using the 10 US dollars as a comparison, scale the price base on the value of that nation's currency.

EDIT: Just to prove my point, 10 US dollars is 9.54 AU dollars, 7.74 euros, 6.4 pounds, 10.14 Canadian dollars, etc.

Okay, maybe I didn't think of that. I'll change what I want:

Instead of that, I want to have the non-point system used. However, all purchaseables should be the same prices in all countries. I don't like getting less value for money than other countries. We know Nintendo sells GB(C) games on the eShop to stop free emulation of said games. But when I get less value for money out of twenty dollars, I just say "fuck it, I'll just download it cheap as free and emulate it, don't have time for that BS".

Posted: Jan 22 2012 06:32 pm

justdrop wrote:

Beach Bum wrote:

As long as they don't charge for it they can do whatever they want with it in my opinion. I'm already on the fence about buying the new system, if they were to pull a Microsoft and charge you on top of what you already pay for internet I'd definitely never buy a Wii U. Valve helping build it would be pretty awesome though, they seem to know their shit when it comes to online play.

Someone said it was free in IRC, but I haven't seen a source that says either way.

Well I hope it is true. Free online access is a big factor in which system I buy games for now that I have a PS3 in addition to my 360, and a big reason why my 360 has done nothing but gather dust lately. Can't justify spending extra money just to get online when I don't buy crap like CoD which basically requires online access. If I had to pay to play Dark Souls online it'd be out of the question. I'm sure they can come up with ways to make online free and still make money on it, PSN seems to manage with the Playstation Plus thing.

Posted: Jan 22 2012 07:33 pm

Mr. Satire wrote:

The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

I agree with all those points. However, I would also like points to be the same value in all countries, regardless of currency differences. Basically, if 1000 points is worth $10 in the US, it should cost $10 in every other country, regardless of currency.

Are you kidding me?? Saying something should cost $10 flat out everywhere, regardless of currency, shows very little economic knowledge. There is actual value to currency, you know, and so 10 US dollars is very different than 10 Euros or even 10 Canadian dollars now. Instead, there should be a more realistic conversion to the same value, not the same dollar amount. Using the 10 US dollars as a comparison, scale the price base on the value of that nation's currency.

EDIT: Just to prove my point, 10 US dollars is 9.54 AU dollars, 7.74 euros, 6.4 pounds, 10.14 Canadian dollars, etc.

Okay, maybe I didn't think of that. I'll change what I want:

Instead of that, I want to have the non-point system used. However, all purchaseables should be the same prices in all countries. I don't like getting less value for money than other countries. We know Nintendo sells GB(C) games on the eShop to stop free emulation of said games. But when I get less value for money out of twenty dollars, I just say "fuck it, I'll just download it cheap as free and emulate it, don't have time for that BS".

....did you even bother to read my post? I feel like you just said the same exact thing.

Posted: Jan 22 2012 07:46 pm

username wrote:

Ky-Guy wrote:

How about somewhat of an MMORPG/Second Life- style game involving Yoshies?

pfft fuck that

Meh, didn't hurt to ask. Wink

How about being able to play Virtual Console games online, offering online chat with it?

Joined: Jun 08 2010 Location: Termina Field Posts: 1541

The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

I agree with all those points. However, I would also like points to be the same value in all countries, regardless of currency differences. Basically, if 1000 points is worth $10 in the US, it should cost $10 in every other country, regardless of currency.

Are you kidding me?? Saying something should cost $10 flat out everywhere, regardless of currency, shows very little economic knowledge. There is actual value to currency, you know, and so 10 US dollars is very different than 10 Euros or even 10 Canadian dollars now. Instead, there should be a more realistic conversion to the same value, not the same dollar amount. Using the 10 US dollars as a comparison, scale the price base on the value of that nation's currency.

EDIT: Just to prove my point, 10 US dollars is 9.54 AU dollars, 7.74 euros, 6.4 pounds, 10.14 Canadian dollars, etc.

Okay, maybe I didn't think of that. I'll change what I want:

Instead of that, I want to have the non-point system used. However, all purchaseables should be the same prices in all countries. I don't like getting less value for money than other countries. We know Nintendo sells GB(C) games on the eShop to stop free emulation of said games. But when I get less value for money out of twenty dollars, I just say "fuck it, I'll just download it cheap as free and emulate it, don't have time for that BS".

....did you even bother to read my post? I feel like you just said the same exact thing.

Well, your suggestion would make the price vary, which I find undesirable. I want the value for money to be the same everywhere. I know it makes no sense financially, but it is the only way people like myself will even consider using the shop. I don't want to get four games out of $20 on the store, while some other people get around six.

Posted: Jan 23 2012 01:45 am

Mr. Satire wrote:

The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

I agree with all those points. However, I would also like points to be the same value in all countries, regardless of currency differences. Basically, if 1000 points is worth $10 in the US, it should cost $10 in every other country, regardless of currency.

Are you kidding me?? Saying something should cost $10 flat out everywhere, regardless of currency, shows very little economic knowledge. There is actual value to currency, you know, and so 10 US dollars is very different than 10 Euros or even 10 Canadian dollars now. Instead, there should be a more realistic conversion to the same value, not the same dollar amount. Using the 10 US dollars as a comparison, scale the price base on the value of that nation's currency.

EDIT: Just to prove my point, 10 US dollars is 9.54 AU dollars, 7.74 euros, 6.4 pounds, 10.14 Canadian dollars, etc.

Okay, maybe I didn't think of that. I'll change what I want:

Instead of that, I want to have the non-point system used. However, all purchaseables should be the same prices in all countries. I don't like getting less value for money than other countries. We know Nintendo sells GB(C) games on the eShop to stop free emulation of said games. But when I get less value for money out of twenty dollars, I just say "fuck it, I'll just download it cheap as free and emulate it, don't have time for that BS".

....did you even bother to read my post? I feel like you just said the same exact thing.

Well, your suggestion would make the price vary, which I find undesirable. I want the value for money to be the same everywhere. I know it makes no sense financially, but it is the only way people like myself will even consider using the shop. I don't want to get four games out of $20 on the store, while some other people get around six.

I guess you won't consider using the shop unless a world unifying single currency is adopted by all countries while the store is still around.

Enjoy stealing the games you can instead, since you already stated you do that.

Posted: Jan 23 2012 02:03 am

A world currency? Zeitgeist! Zeitgeist! OMG THE CONSPIRACY IS TRUE.

Posted: Jan 23 2012 11:43 am

Mr. Satire wrote:

The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

I agree with all those points. However, I would also like points to be the same value in all countries, regardless of currency differences. Basically, if 1000 points is worth $10 in the US, it should cost $10 in every other country, regardless of currency.

Are you kidding me?? Saying something should cost $10 flat out everywhere, regardless of currency, shows very little economic knowledge. There is actual value to currency, you know, and so 10 US dollars is very different than 10 Euros or even 10 Canadian dollars now. Instead, there should be a more realistic conversion to the same value, not the same dollar amount. Using the 10 US dollars as a comparison, scale the price base on the value of that nation's currency.

EDIT: Just to prove my point, 10 US dollars is 9.54 AU dollars, 7.74 euros, 6.4 pounds, 10.14 Canadian dollars, etc.

Okay, maybe I didn't think of that. I'll change what I want:

Instead of that, I want to have the non-point system used. However, all purchaseables should be the same prices in all countries. I don't like getting less value for money than other countries. We know Nintendo sells GB(C) games on the eShop to stop free emulation of said games. But when I get less value for money out of twenty dollars, I just say "fuck it, I'll just download it cheap as free and emulate it, don't have time for that BS".

....did you even bother to read my post? I feel like you just said the same exact thing.

Well, your suggestion would make the price vary, which I find undesirable. I want the value for money to be the same everywhere. I know it makes no sense financially, but it is the only way people like myself will even consider using the shop. I don't want to get four games out of $20 on the store, while some other people get around six.

That would be fine if your $20 was worth the same as my $20. The thing is it isn't as FS clearly showed. In fact if I'm reading that right your money is worth more than mine because the dollar is slowly sinking into the toilet. Currency has a certain value against other currency and rarely are any of them able to exchange 1:1. If you want to get the same value for your money you need to find a way to make your money worth the same as everyone elses, but good luck with that.

Posted: Jan 23 2012 12:04 pm

Here's why points shouldn't cost the same in every region: because retail games don't either. Here are the current prices on Skyward Sword in various countries. All prices courtesy of Amazon, except for Australia. The Australia price is via EB Games.

UK - 32.53 (£)
US - 47.71 ($)
CA - 55.44 (Canadian $)
EU - 32.95 (Euro)
JP - 5,236 (¥)
AU - 58.00 (Australian $)

If 1000 points cost $10 in the US, they should cost roughly $12.16 in Australia.

Also, not all countries have dollars. A game that costs 50 dollars in America CANNOT retail for 50 yen in Japan.

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Syd Lexia wrote:

Here's why points shouldn't cost the same in every region: because retail games don't either. Here are the current prices on Skyward Sword in various countries. All prices courtesy of Amazon, except for Australia. The Australia price is via EB Games.

UK - 32.53 (£)
US - 47.71 ($)
CA - 55.44 (Canadian $)
EU - 32.95 (Euro)
JP - 5,236 (¥)
AU - 58.00 (Australian $)

If 1000 points cost $10 in the US, they should cost roughly $12.16 in Australia.

Also, not all countries have dollars. A game that costs 50 dollars in America CANNOT retail for 50 yen in Japan.

Well, that makes sense.

In fact, the Wii Shop point system got everything right. While points did cost different prices for each currency, I can still get the same amount of value for points anywhere, and that is all I really want.

Posted: Jan 23 2012 01:21 pm

What's stopping Nintendo from unifying all of their point systems other than that the 3DS uses real currencies?

Posted: Jan 23 2012 03:08 pm

Nothing. And since downloads are linked to your Club Nintendo account, it would be easy to merge the systems. People would be more willing to shell out $5 for a NES game if they could play it on their Wii, Wii U, and 3DS.

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

You'd think just merging the Virtual Console choices from the Wii to the 3DS would be a no brainer. It can't be that fucking hard, and half of those games I'd rather just pop open and play on the fly.

Posted: Jan 23 2012 05:49 pm

Mr. Satire wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

Here's why points shouldn't cost the same in every region: because retail games don't either. Here are the current prices on Skyward Sword in various countries. All prices courtesy of Amazon, except for Australia. The Australia price is via EB Games.

UK - 32.53 (£)
US - 47.71 ($)
CA - 55.44 (Canadian $)
EU - 32.95 (Euro)
JP - 5,236 (¥)
AU - 58.00 (Australian $)

If 1000 points cost $10 in the US, they should cost roughly $12.16 in Australia.

Also, not all countries have dollars. A game that costs 50 dollars in America CANNOT retail for 50 yen in Japan.

Well, that makes sense.

In fact, the Wii Shop point system got everything right. While points did cost different prices for each currency, I can still get the same amount of value for points anywhere, and that is all I really want.

WTF, Satire. I explain it and you don't get it and say the same thing. Syd says it and suddenly "OMGMAKESSENSE". I'm calling sexism.

Posted: Jan 23 2012 05:58 pm

Is it sexist if I only sleep with women?

Posted: Jan 23 2012 06:03 pm

So I hate to go wildly off-topic and talk about the Nintendo Network, but Nintendo released a statement saying that the Nintendo Network and Nintendo WFC are the same thing. It's a rebranding or something. Any improvements or changes remain to be seen.

Posted: Jan 23 2012 06:41 pm

justdrop wrote:

Is it sexist if I only sleep with women?

As long as it isn't sexist that I only sleep with men.

Also, I love your sig ROFL. Laughing

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The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

Here's why points shouldn't cost the same in every region: because retail games don't either. Here are the current prices on Skyward Sword in various countries. All prices courtesy of Amazon, except for Australia. The Australia price is via EB Games.

UK - 32.53 (£)
US - 47.71 ($)
CA - 55.44 (Canadian $)
EU - 32.95 (Euro)
JP - 5,236 (¥)
AU - 58.00 (Australian $)

If 1000 points cost $10 in the US, they should cost roughly $12.16 in Australia.

Also, not all countries have dollars. A game that costs 50 dollars in America CANNOT retail for 50 yen in Japan.

Well, that makes sense.

In fact, the Wii Shop point system got everything right. While points did cost different prices for each currency, I can still get the same amount of value for points anywhere, and that is all I really want.

WTF, Satire. I explain it and you don't get it and say the same thing. Syd says it and suddenly "OMGMAKESSENSE". I'm calling sexism.

I didn't know that the currency in Japan was so different, and was thinking about countries that have more similar-in-value currencies when I read your post, and then Syd pointed out the Japanese price difference. Also, don't call sexism just because I appeared to ignore your post.

Posted: Jan 24 2012 01:20 am

Mr. Satire wrote:

The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

Here's why points shouldn't cost the same in every region: because retail games don't either. Here are the current prices on Skyward Sword in various countries. All prices courtesy of Amazon, except for Australia. The Australia price is via EB Games.

UK - 32.53 (£)
US - 47.71 ($)
CA - 55.44 (Canadian $)
EU - 32.95 (Euro)
JP - 5,236 (¥)
AU - 58.00 (Australian $)

If 1000 points cost $10 in the US, they should cost roughly $12.16 in Australia.

Also, not all countries have dollars. A game that costs 50 dollars in America CANNOT retail for 50 yen in Japan.

Well, that makes sense.

In fact, the Wii Shop point system got everything right. While points did cost different prices for each currency, I can still get the same amount of value for points anywhere, and that is all I really want.

WTF, Satire. I explain it and you don't get it and say the same thing. Syd says it and suddenly "OMGMAKESSENSE". I'm calling sexism.

I didn't know that the currency in Japan was so different, and was thinking about countries that have more similar-in-value currencies when I read your post, and then Syd pointed out the Japanese price difference. Also, don't call sexism just because I appeared to ignore your post.

I'm female. It's my job to call everything sexist.

Posted: Jan 24 2012 01:36 am

The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

The Flaming Schnitzel wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

Here's why points shouldn't cost the same in every region: because retail games don't either. Here are the current prices on Skyward Sword in various countries. All prices courtesy of Amazon, except for Australia. The Australia price is via EB Games.

UK - 32.53 (£)
US - 47.71 ($)
CA - 55.44 (Canadian $)
EU - 32.95 (Euro)
JP - 5,236 (¥)
AU - 58.00 (Australian $)

If 1000 points cost $10 in the US, they should cost roughly $12.16 in Australia.

Also, not all countries have dollars. A game that costs 50 dollars in America CANNOT retail for 50 yen in Japan.

Well, that makes sense.

In fact, the Wii Shop point system got everything right. While points did cost different prices for each currency, I can still get the same amount of value for points anywhere, and that is all I really want.

WTF, Satire. I explain it and you don't get it and say the same thing. Syd says it and suddenly "OMGMAKESSENSE". I'm calling sexism.

I didn't know that the currency in Japan was so different, and was thinking about countries that have more similar-in-value currencies when I read your post, and then Syd pointed out the Japanese price difference. Also, don't call sexism just because I appeared to ignore your post.

I'm female. It's my job to call everything sexist.

well, isnt that sexist....