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Posted: Jan 02 2012 02:14 pm

People who do shit like this are the reason people get abortions. Who'd want to bring a child into a world where people go around blowing shit up because they don't like it? Maybe if they realized these clinics don't just perform abortions but actually try to help the people coming in with a variety of things before resorting to abortion maybe they'd be less likely to go around burning the places down, but fanatics have never been marked by their ability to reason.

Posted: Jan 02 2012 02:22 pm

Optimist With Doubts wrote:

No, you are not just dissenting, you are deliberately drawing ire. There have been posters in this very thread that have said they are against abortions.

The argument here is that is it ok to burn down a building to suit your own views. The law says no.

Your same argument could say it's ok to kill anyone who supports abortion in anyway.

MY argument could not, as I have already stated I don't oppose abortions early on in gestation. You're attempting to fit me into a mold, one that's already been predefined for you. Problem is, I don't fit that.

I rarely care what the law says on anything, but that's just me. If the law said you had to deliver your grandma for soylent green processing, would you? Would you kill the people trying to do so? I would argue that in that admittedly unlikely scenario, you would have a duty to do so. To me, saying it's against the law means nothing. The law could change tomorrow.

If you truly believed that person X was doing unspeakably evil things in building Y, and the law didn't give a shit, would you do nothing? I'm not going to blow up any abortion clinics, because I don't think it's the best way to stop it, but I understand why someone would. I'm not going to go on a shooting spree killing rapists and child molesters, but I know why someone would. Say someone did, should I feel bad for the victims?

Posted: Jan 02 2012 02:27 pm

I think abortion should be legal up until the 40th trimester. Some of these kids are just god-awful.

Posted: Jan 02 2012 02:29 pm

Beach Bum wrote:

People who do shit like this are the reason people get abortions. Who'd want to bring a child into a world where people go around blowing shit up because they don't like it? Maybe if they realized these clinics don't just perform abortions but actually try to help the people coming in with a variety of things before resorting to abortion maybe they'd be less likely to go around burning the places down, but fanatics have never been marked by their ability to reason.

The problem with your argument is that there are a ton of other places that do those things as well, but don't provide abortions. The fanatics know that.

A drug dealer bought me a pack of smokes one time. Does that make him a good guy?

Btw, I'm sorry for not adding this to my previous post, mods. My phone makes that a maddening impossibility.

Posted: Jan 02 2012 02:33 pm

Jack Slater wrote:

Btw, I'm sorry for not adding this to my previous post, mods. My phone makes that a maddening impossibility.

It's all good. My extremely productive comment created a gap between your two posts.

Title: Titlating Joined: Dec 17 2007 Posts: 5042

Ok I'm not going to keep posting in this thread. Clearly if you think you can break every law in the world because it can be changed, unless you disagree with it, there is no arguing.

One more point I will make is that the clinic, and no clinics in pensacola or most of florida preform late term abortions.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jan 02 2012 04:38 pm

Just by mentioning the A-word, you're creating a flame war right there. Seriously, if you want a calm rational debate about this, you aren't going to get it. People are passionate about it, that's why after over 40 years this shit still ain't settled.

And to be a bit less pithy...I'm tired of hearing stories like this. It's legal. You don't have to like it, you can spend all day on the sidewalk with your signs if you have nothing better to do, you can preach and preach and convince people whatever way you like. But remember, this is the 21st century. We are not living in the Dark Ages anymore. You do NOT go and fucking kill someone, burn down their shit, and assault them just because they're doing something you don't like, no matter how much you don't like it, no matter how bad you think it is. It's called civilization. Welcome to it. Follow the rules, or we have a nice cell we like to put people in who don't want to.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

aika wrote:

Hun I dunno if you read the article completely but it says specifically that pro-lifers have bombed the place in the past. Another guy murdered people that worked there. The extremists have no qualms sinking to horrific lows to try to push their views.

I know it said all of that, but I'm just saying it doesn't specifically say that we know conclusively that this incident itself is the result of malicious intent or an accident.

That aside, it was probably malicious intent.

Like I said, I'll shut up.

Posted: Jan 02 2012 05:43 pm

I think abortion should be illegal, but only for white people.

Joined: Apr 14 2006 Location: Lake Michigan Posts: 3332

Haha, I'm glad my vacation was so distracting that I wasn't here for most of this.

Oh wait, I hate talking about abortion and all social issues.

Posted: Jan 03 2012 01:08 pm

This is where this thread is heading.

atomjacked wrote:

Logan wrote:

Drew Linky wrote:

atomjacked wrote:

At the moon McDonalds you get a free abortion with every Happy Meal, because abortions should be about happiness.

And I'll be the one making all the food.

I'll be the one jacking off with giraffes while eating cotton candy with my semen covered hands.

That's perfectly fine on the moon. You have the right to do that under the moon constitution.

Posted: Jan 03 2012 01:34 pm

Well if the thread heads there it will be a lot more interesting than it is now.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jan 03 2012 04:06 pm

I think that's the direction all abortion debates should go in.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

What, abortions in 1/6 Earth gravity?

Posted: Jan 03 2012 04:09 pm

By the way, those quotes are from the Question of the day thread in the Abandoned Fairgrounds. I wish sideway would start that thread back up.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

atomjacked wrote:

By the way, those quotes are from the Question of the day thread in the Abandoned Fairgrounds. I wish sideway would start that thread back up.

Seconded.

Posted: Jan 03 2012 05:01 pm

I knew that quote looked familiar. Well if that's the kind of top quality discussion we had in that thread, I may just have to start it back up.

Posted: Jan 03 2012 05:02 pm

Yeah, that was the only good thing in the Fairgrounds in the last year or so. Start that back up.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

sidewaydriver wrote:

I knew that quote looked familiar. Well if that's the kind of top quality discussion we had in that thread, I may just have to start it back up.

Please do. I'm dying here.

Title: Electric Sex Pants Joined: Dec 30 2009 Posts: 199

Man, abortion really brings out the kid in you.

Posted: Jan 03 2012 10:11 pm

It's a common fact: some people are just fucking stupid beyond comprehension.