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ChaoticIgnorance
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PostPosted: Aug 23 2011 04:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

So this little article was posted on IGN:

http://games.ign.com/articles/118/1189659p1.html

I was curious what everyone's thoughts on it were and what they think the future of gaming will be like. I agree with most of what the article brought up, however a few things stand out to me. The first is the idea that single player gaming will be dead by 2021. I can't deny the fact that multiplayer gaming is huge (even if I rarely ever partake in it), but the idea of no single player at all? Even if it's along the line of what Demon Souls did, I don't believe it for a second. The second thing I noticed is the bit on virtual reality. Maybe it's just me being bitter, or a Nintendo/Peter Moleneux fanboy, but everything they bring up is exactly what has been going on over the last half decade. The Wii is more or less the first step towards virtual reality, yet people shoot it down as gimmicky. And if you want extreme AI in the future then you have to be accepting of things such as Milo, rather than give it shit about being a virtual molestation game.

So what does everyone think?
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PostPosted: Aug 23 2011 05:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Some of this stuff I just don't see happening in the next ten years, maybe fifty or so, but ten years I doubt it. More advanced motion controls are a given, but holodecks? I doubt we see them in the next ten years, sure they are possible now I suppose, but think of the cost it would take to put one in your house. Would you have to remodel a whole room or would it just be like a phone booth sized thing? Either way it sounds terribly expensive. The capture technology will definitely happen and become more mainstream, because ragdoll physics and shit like that are beginning to feel dated as games get more and more graphically advanced.

The connected one is pretty much already here. All the major systems anymore are capable of going online and connecting with people all over the globe. As to the death of single player, people have been saying that for quite a while and I have yet to see it happen. Sure some games like CoD have basically removed the story mode or whittled it down to nothing in favor of more multiplayer, but as far as I can tell this is not the norm and probably will never be. Sure like the article points out there are ways to still have single player and still show other players like Demon's Souls does, but how would that work in say Final Fantasy or Civilization?

I imagine graphics will keep getting better too, but at some point they will become "too human" and players will be disgusted with killing something that actually looks human and isn't kind of, for lack of a better term, cartoony looking. VR has been promised to us for as long as I can recall and they have yet to really deliver, so we'll see, but given the track record I'm a little doubtful.
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PostPosted: Aug 23 2011 06:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

This is linkbait. IGN wants traffic, so they printed some controversial bullshit to get everybody all up in arms. Most of the stuff they're saying isn't going to happen within ten years, if at all.

Single player gaming isn't going to die. But you might see systems using their online connectivity in creative ways. In Catherine, for example, you are asked a series of moral questions. On the loading screens between action levels, you are showed how other players answered.

Also, they left off the most obvious one: video games as a physical medium (discs, carts) will cease to exist.
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ChaoticIgnorance
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PostPosted: Aug 23 2011 07:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

"I imagine graphics will keep getting better too, but at some point they will become "too human" and players will be disgusted with killing something that actually looks human and isn't kind of, for lack of a better term, cartoony looking."

This saddens me a bit because I would love to finally get to the point where people would be disgusted with this stuff. Imagine if the scene in Pan's Labyrinth where the guy gets his nose crushed in was done by the player. Or the torture scene from the same movie. That could pull some serious emotional responses from people.

And I still stick by my believe that it will not be all digital for a very, very long time. We have physical cds available to people that want them, so the option of physical games will still be there in 15-20 years. I have no facts to back this up, but I bet when the N64 came out everyone started going on about analog sticks being the only way to play games in the future, but look at the DS, or some PS2/PS3 games, or any Apply product. Even the idea of 3d becoming mainstream is out of whack. Just because something is taking off, that doesn't mean it's going to take over.
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PostPosted: Aug 23 2011 07:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I definitely agree that single player games aren't going to die. Of course, multiplayer gaming is becoming increasingly important, especially with our online-capable consoles, but a good 'ol single player game is great fun every now and again. I don't always want to be running around gunning up opposing forces, and there will surely be other folks with long attention spans for single player games after a decade.

When I clicked the link I had hoped to hear some updates on unlimited detail, which looks to be pretty impressive if it ever gets into the hands of game developers. Check out the video - the guy's voice is kinda goofy, but it's pretty cool stuff. Graphics are of course not as important as actual gameplay, though this was the kind of thing I was expecting to read about.
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PostPosted: Aug 23 2011 08:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I don't think multiplayer is going to become increasingly important. I think it'll stay about where it is. I see about a 50/50 market split between single player games and multiplayer games being the norm.

I think, for the most part, we've seen pretty much everything done with multiplayer that can be done. We haven't seen a lot of innovation in multiplayer gaming in the last ten years, other than how we play it (local vs. online) and how many players it supports. Single player gaming lends itself to innovation and story-telling much more than multiplayer gaming will ever be able to do. When you look at the truly innovative and fascinating games of the last decade, it's all single player games.

Also, in regards to graphics, just because a company can make a video game character that looks 100% human, that doesn't mean that they WILL. There will always be style considerations. You're not going to see franchises like Dragon Quest, Street Fighter, Mario, Sonic, Guilty Gear, or Mega Man going super realistic no matter how technology progresses. You'll see more polish, to be sure, but they'd still maintain cartoonish feels to them.
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PostPosted: Aug 23 2011 08:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

meh, fuck ign


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Greg the White
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PostPosted: Aug 23 2011 10:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

username wrote:
meh, fuck ign

Sounds about right.

I also don't see motion controls as the future (don't tell Sony or Microsoft, they seem so pleased with the idea). I think the best advances would be using a way of controlling the game that requires the least amount of input from the player, resulting in the player being less aware that they're playing a game, increasing immersion. That isn't to say there aren't cool things about motion controls, I just don't see them being the industry standard.

If there's a future for multiplayer, it's going to be MMO's. Once hardware, connections, and servers become more advanced, we'll be able to try out more action-oriented MMO's from different genres, or perhaps even new ideas from RPG's.

Indie gaming will probably get big. With AAA titles taking years and millions of dollars to develop an 8 hour campaign that looks good only if you have an HDTV and top-of-the-line consoles and PC's, I feel like publishers will like the idea of using small, focused teams to create small, yet still enriching games to fuel revenue.

Mainstream respect. Gaming is becoming more and more of a hobby, but games certainly aren't getting more "mature." Most major releases usually involve some committee-designed hero murdering tons of people for ambiguous reasons, or using realistic conflict in a way that glorifies conflict in all ways. Someone mentioned making a player feel uncomfortable about killing a human in a game, and I think that that is what will get gaming respect amongst the other art forms out there. From there, gaming can attract all kinds of creative minds to create all kinds of things we had never even thought of before.


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PostPosted: Aug 24 2011 05:56 am Reply with quote Back to top

I agree with everything Syd has said.
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PostPosted: Aug 24 2011 09:04 am Reply with quote Back to top

I preordered Madden


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PostPosted: Aug 24 2011 09:11 am Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Aug 24 2011 09:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

I remember reading somewhere a few years back that Steve Jobs wanted to build a holodeck, it is one of his dreams or something. Maybe somewhere down the line Apple will be selling the iDeck holodeck entertainment system.

I don't think single player games are going to disappear either, but if they do, there are a shitload of games already available that I have no problem replaying for the rest of my life.

Graphics.... well, I do not give a fuck how realistic the game looks, I just give a fuck about it being fun and entertaining, and having replay value. I have a friend who makes me watch videos of all sorts of games that look nice and goes on and on about how awesome it is going to be, but that is becoming the increasing majority of games these days. Focus on gameplay, not graphics I say.

I think we will end up seeing 3d holographic projection, but it is not going to be that great at first. I would not be surprised if Nintendo brought that to the table as far as console gaming goes.

I also don't think multiplayer will be so important, at least not until they figure out a way to do something new with it.

I also believe that there is another thing missing from that article. You will not be able to play a game in the future without being connected to the internet. No internet connection = no video games. Things already seem to be moving in that direction, and frankly, it irritates the piss out of me.


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PostPosted: Aug 24 2011 11:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
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Oh, and I also agree with everything Syd said.


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PostPosted: Aug 25 2011 02:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

I like pickles! ... Oh and i agree with Syd too.


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PostPosted: Aug 25 2011 03:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

Sycophants!



 
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PostPosted: Aug 25 2011 08:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

As others have said, I think multi-player will top out soon, if it hasn't already. You can only make COD so many different ways.

Oh, and fuck motion controls.


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PostPosted: Aug 25 2011 10:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Keep the future of video games violent so its fun


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2011 12:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

I never really cared for multiplayer, video games are in my opinion" me time" a way to escape / zone out. If I'm hanging with friends I'd prefer to play cards or a board game around a table to facilitate face to face conversation, or like go disc golfing or something.



 
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2011 02:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Blackout wrote:
I never really cared for multiplayer, video games are in my opinion" me time" a way to escape / zone out. If I'm hanging with friends I'd prefer to play cards or a board game around a table to facilitate face to face conversation, or like go disc golfing or something.

A lot of my friends and I have been playing competitive multiplayer games since Half Life 1, and we're starting to get fatigued with it. With the exception of games like TF2, Bad Company 2, and Brink (where you can help your team in ways besides just murdering everyone), I mostly play co-op games with friends. Playing Borderlands, GoW Horde Mode, Left 4 Dead, etc. is a great way to get some friends together and relax without feeling totally seperated, but I do understand your sentiments.


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2011 06:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You know, a Holodeck is completely implausible. A room that becomes a self-contained virtual reality sandbox world just doesn't work. Okay, so there you are, walking around in the virtual world, and then you walk straight into the wall, because you can only walk forward so far. Immersion ruined. Game over.
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2011 06:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
You know, a Holodeck is completely implausible. A room that becomes a self-contained virtual reality sandbox world just doesn't work. Okay, so there you are, walking around in the virtual world, and then you walk straight into the wall, because you can only walk forward so far. Immersion ruined. Game over.

I guess you could have some sort of treadmill but that would ruin immersion even worse.

Maybe if you plugged something in the back of your head to connect to the holodeck and all the sensations of movement and physical interaction were false but the images in the holodeck were real and responded to the stimulus from your brain thinking it's walking around? Then again if that was possible why even render the scenery for the eyes to interpret if you could just plug and play? I don't know ask a Star Trek dork! Confused



 
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2011 08:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, something that taps directly into your brain's sensory input would work, if that's possible.
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2011 10:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I always did wonder about that, with the Holodeck. I kept expecting them to slam into the wall at some point just like you said, but it never happened...


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2011 10:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SoldierHawk wrote:
I always did wonder about that, with the Holodeck. I kept expecting them to slam into the wall at some point just like you said, but it never happened...

Didn't they only walk like twenty feet tops in any virtual world? I can't remember an episode where they went sprinting or out ran the projectors
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In the Sherlock Holmes episodes, they'd wander through London.
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