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Pandajuice
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 06:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

username wrote:
wow. 1up.com gave it an F
http://www.1up.com/reviews/duke-nukem-forever-review


I've been noticing with a lot of these bad reviews that the reviewers don't seem to understand what Duke Nukem was all about. Especially in the 1UP review, the guy just bashes the game for being crass and over the top for 3 paragraphs; crass and over the top is what Duke Nukem is supposed to be.

I also hate reviews that demand new ideas and the most modern of technologies in every game. So what if it looks a little dated and has circle strafing boss fights? Is it a fun game overall? That's what you should be reviewing. I'm all for new ideas in gaming, but to expect them every time a new game is released is unrealistic.

The most telling thing in my opinion is how divided most reviewers and the general public are about the game. Most people seem to like it and don't mind the Duke character and "archaeic" game design.
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 07:04 am Reply with quote Back to top

Destructoid gave the game 2/10.

Look, no playable game reasonably deserves an F or a 2/10.

Here's the first question you ask: does the game suffer from gamebreaking glitches that render it unplayable?

If the answer is no, then the game objectively deserves at least a D, or a 4/10. I know that D and 4/10 aren't generally considered the same thing, but trust me, in review land they are.

The type of game that deserves an F is something like Spray on the Wii, which has a disgusting premise, is buggy as hell, and can even be rendered unfinishable by it bugs.
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Rydog
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 09:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

I can't really judge because I haven't played this game but it seems bashing this game was going to be the trendy thing to do no matter how good or bad it was. I'm sure reviewers are diving into their reviews hell bent on shredding it. Being open minded was out of the question for many due to the history of this games production. If this game wasn't marred in hell for all eternity and a running joke for game fans/developers alike, it probably would be getting at least average scores.
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 09:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

Honestly, I expected better from reviewers. Most reviewers were pretty fair to Chinese Democracy, some even gave it 9/10 and A- rankings. I suppose music is a bit different though. Music doesn't really age in the same way that games do.
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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 10:17 am Reply with quote Back to top

The reviews are incredibly harsh. What I don't understand is that most of them point out the things that make a Duke Nukem game a Duke Nukem game. I haven't played it and won't until the price severely decreases, but I do think that anything below a 4/10 means a game is virtually unplayable. That doesn't seem to be the case.

It sounds like 14 years of pent up frustration being released by people who are no 14 years older and might not want what they once desired.



 
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username
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 12:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i agree w/you guys. these reviews are ridiculous.

the game is playable. the game has its moments. the controls arent terrible.

are the jokes terrible? yeah, to some degree.
is the animation a bit clunky? yeah. kind of.

is it fun? yeah.

at worst, i would say the game is a D+. at best a B-.


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Greg the White
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 02:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Slayer1 wrote:
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I always thought it was weird that an up and coming developer like Gearbox quickly snatched this up and made a game in less than a year. If they sucked at developing Duke, then Duke is completely irrelevant. I never liked his character or the crappy Doom/Wolfenstein knock off games, so I couldn't really get ramped up for this. Too many good games to waste cash on this.

I had to laugh at this quote. A) Gearbox has been around since 1999 and B) Gearbox also did the Half Life Expansions, Opposing Force and Blue Shift, which is also considered a Doom knock off at the time... dear god, people just want to bitch.
And the PS3 has a long load time as well Greg... mandatory install, still long time loading the game.

Also, Randy Pitchford (head of Gearbox) originally worked on Duke Nukem 3D to some extent, so he probably still had his connections to work in a deal.

I think reviwers are trying to go the Yahtzee/AVGN route of just bashing things for kicks and attention. Problem is, nobody's good at it, and they all make the same lame "jokes" that have been made for the past 12 years. It's funny how reviewers will call out games as pretentious, or wish games were just dumb fun these days, but will immediately rip on something for being vapid or brainless when they can get some lame, cliche humor in.

Looking around, I think I found the worst commentary on Duke so far. This guy takes a decent route of saying "Hey, gibbing alien rape victims while spouting one-liners is unfunny, cruel, and makes us all look bad." Then he goes on bashing western development, but still bringing up RapeLay, while also talking about how he doesn't like developers objectifying women, while he enjoys doing it himself. If I sent that into a 6th grade English teacher he'd give me a D- and call my parents, but he probably got paid for this shit:

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9082206

As far as my experience, it may sound superficial, but the loading times really are killing it for me. Levels are short and have taken upwards of a minute to load (The first Vegas street one must have taken at least a minute), not to mention the twenty seconds or so it requires to reload a state (I played for twenty minutes when I first got it, and took a break for a day after having to reload that stupid fucking elevator brake mini-game 3 times). It's a shame, because when the action ramps up, and I'm circle-strafing pig cops, it's a lot of fun, but the loading screens and constant running-out of ammo kill the flow. The one big compliment I can pay it is that I'm glad to see an FPS bringing back legit, non-gimmick, health-bar bosses, which I haven't really seen since Painkiller came out.


So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind.
 
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 03:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've been told to play it on PC, as the loading times are nonexistent.
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 06:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yea, Gearbox going with the tentacle/alien rape route with this game was a bad, bad idea. I mean it was always kind of obvious that's why the aliens were kidnapping women to begin with, but actually spelling it out like that was really unnecessary.

Honestly, one of the things the N64 version of DN3D got right was you could save the girls instead of executing them. That was a much better idea.


There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant.
 
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Greg the White
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 07:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JRA wrote:
Yea, Gearbox going with the tentacle/alien rape route with this game was a bad, bad idea. I mean it was always kind of obvious that's why the aliens were kidnapping women to begin with, but actually spelling it out like that was really unnecessary.

Honestly, one of the things the N64 version of DN3D got right was you could save the girls instead of executing them. That was a much better idea.

Well, in all fairness, Gearbox didn't put that in, but they could just have easily fixed it up. Between this and turning their once-respectable Brothers in Arms series into a Nazi crotch-electrocuting Basterds-ripoff, I'm afraid that one of my favorite developers is one-noting itself after Borderlands (which was great, seems like they're half-heartedly mimmicking the anarchic sense of humor in it, minus the wit that made it appealing).


So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind.
 
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Slayer1
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 11:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

http://screwattack.com/videos/VGR-Duke-Nukem-Forever

Screw Attack did a positive-neutral review on it...
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Blackout
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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 06:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'll play it for nostalgia's sake, plus Matt Hazard was boring.



 
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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 07:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

The Screwattack review seemed really good and fair. All the shit I've been reading about doesn't really seem to reflect on the videos I've seen. It just looks like an average FPS game. I've never played Duke Nukem but I'm still not seeing what makes this game horrible. One of the biggest complaints I hear about is the graphics. They look perfectly fine to me.


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Blackout
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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 07:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah I don't see what's so wrong with the graphics.

Play the original, it's a goodun.



 
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Greg the White
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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 10:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

Gametrailers always does great reviews, especially for such a popular site.


So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind.
 
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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 10:51 am Reply with quote Back to top



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Pandajuice
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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 03:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

sidewaydriver wrote:
The Screwattack review seemed really good and fair. All the shit I've been reading about doesn't really seem to reflect on the videos I've seen. It just looks like an average FPS game. I've never played Duke Nukem but I'm still not seeing what makes this game horrible. One of the biggest complaints I hear about is the graphics. They look perfectly fine to me.


This is how I feel too. I read the reviews, then look at screenshots and videos and I don't see what the reviewers are talking about at all. The graphics looks fine to me too; nothing groundbreaking sure, but definitely passable. The Duke character seems the same Duke I expected based on the 1996 game that established him; again, nothing too disgusting, misogynistic or retarded there.

I'm just kind of shocked that so many reviewers are unfairly bashing the game. I'd have thought with DNF finally coming out, many people would be overblowing it and praising it up and down. I just don't get what these guys were expecting.
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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 03:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Giant Bomb wrote:
The Internet isn't safe, either, with "porkchop sandwiches" dropping in straight out of Eric Fensler's GI Joe PSA reedits. That happened in, what, 2003?

You know, because quoting Army of Darkness and They Live was SO topical back in 1996.
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Greg the White
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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 08:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

There's just nothing there in the game. The game just throws maybe two, three enemies max at a time, so there's none of the old-school Doom/Painkiller shooty fun, the constant loading and re-loading murders the flow, and I just feel no sense of fun that I expected. What confuses me is how long this game took, when your average studio could have farted it out in a year or two.

I regret purchasing it, and gave up halfway through. I traded it in with Dragon Age 2 (another disappointment, both of them my first trade-ins since I got my 360) to get Brink, Dead Space, and Persona 4, and couldn't be happier.


So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind.
 
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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 08:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Greg the White wrote:
The game just throws maybe two, three enemies max at a time, so there's none of the old-school Doom/Painkiller shooty fun

Painkiller certainly is quite old school. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 10:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

joshwoodzy wrote:
Greg the White wrote:
The game just throws maybe two, three enemies max at a time, so there's none of the old-school Doom/Painkiller shooty fun

Painkiller certainly is quite old school. Rolling Eyes

But it has the old school elements, did you care about the story? No you just wanted to fuck shit up, and the bosses were hella fun to fight


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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 10:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well I'm done with the game. I'm sure it's obvious that I liked it and had fun with it. I kind of was hoping Dr. Photon from the original Duke game was in this one like what they had originally planned to do when DNF was first expected, but nonetheless I'm happy with my investment. I'd like to see a sequel done fully by the guys at Gearbox instead of what happened with it, but I can honestly say that this was an alright DNF.

EDIT: I'm watching through the E3 and other gameplay trailers of the game. The first couple verisons look like Half-Life, in fact I swear I see head crabs and Black Mesa.
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PostPosted: Jun 17 2011 11:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
I've been told to play it on PC, as the loading times are nonexistent.


I have it for PC and the loading times are still in the range of 10-15 seconds.
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PostPosted: Jun 17 2011 02:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Alowishus wrote:
Syd Lexia wrote:
I've been told to play it on PC, as the loading times are nonexistent.


I have it for PC and the loading times are still in the range of 10-15 seconds.

That's much shorter then the PS3's
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