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Cattivo
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I don't think I've ever since Frost's plans for Season 3. Do you have any links?
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Tebor
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I went looking after first posting. I thought http://www.twinpeaks.org/ had it, but I haven't able to find it. One major source was an AOL chat he did years ago where he revealed that Major Briggs would be the main force for bringing Cooper back from the Black Lodge. As I remember it, there wasn't much he said as the planning for season three hadn't really begun due to the cancellation and the way Lynch shot the finale. However, I'm sure he had a few ideas. Bob Engels and Harley Peyton I know had ideas too.
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Cattivo
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Tebor wrote: |
Major Briggs would be the main force for bringing Cooper back from the Black Lodge. |
That does sound familiar...I might have seen some stuff then...
Major Briggs was a great character and certainly could have used the extra airtime. That actor's voice was just so....profound. I'm glad he found work on Stargate, even if I'm not a fan of that show.
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Tebor
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Cattivo wrote: |
I'm glad he found work on Stargate, even if I'm not a fan of that show. |
I just said that about Don Davis today! (Not to mention his awesome stint as Scully's pop of X-Files)
But to fair I watched the first season of SG-1, until I released it was too much like Star Trek and wasn't going anywhere I wanted it to.
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Tebor
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I didn't come on tonight to go into long tirades about television, I just meant to post about how much I love that last episode of Twin Peaks. I watched it twice tonight and it is simply marvelous. It's so much what the show should've been. Not just the brilliant Red Room 15 minute finale, but the tone, the pacing, the acting of the entire episode. Everything comes back to the way the pilot was tonally.
One scene I'll point to is the confrontation between Horne and Hayward which leaves one of them down for the count. The other amasses this great, basically hammy, spasm of rage. I'm reminded of Mrs. Palmer's reaction when she found out her daughter was dead from the pilot, it wasn't realistic it was heightened reality. If anything, the second season of "Twin Peaks" played things too mellow emotionally.
Pacing also needed to be much slower so you build that interest. Again, the season premiere of season two begins with Cooper shot on the ground, but for ten minutes any sort of forward plot momentum is temporarily suspended. I can see people hating this, but in hindsight it's great. Even the old man at the bank wasting precious minutes of the series finale felt exactly what it needed to be. There's something innocent about it, very simple. He's an old man who works at a bank, who normally doesn't have these demands placed on him, but here he is and he's making due. It's very small town-y. That's the spirit the show has at its best moments.
That's my speal for "Twin Peaks". I still have "Sycamore Trees" stuck in my head.
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Yeah, the feel of the episode is so similar to the greatness of Episode 2 when Lynch directed last. It's still frustrating not knowing what would happen for those numerous cliffhangers, though - especially the ones where characters might die. God knows I wouldn't have wanted any of the Hornes to bite it. (Although I'm sure they wouldn't kill off anybody besides Andrew).
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Care to borrow my TP: FWWM soundtrack?
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Yeah, the feel of the episode is so similar to the greatness of Episode 2 when Lynch directed last. It's still frustrating not knowing what would happen for those numerous cliffhangers, though - especially the ones where characters might die. God knows I wouldn't have wanted any of the Hornes to bite it. (Although I'm sure they wouldn't kill off anybody besides Andrew). |
Lynch did direct the first two episodes on season 2 and the episode which revealed who killed Laura Palmer. All three were equally amazing.
My solutions to the cliffhangers:
Andrew died, Pete lived only to develop full blown Parkinson's as hinted two episodes before, Audrey lived because she was shielded by the vault door.
Leo escapes. Bobby and Shelly live happily ever after. Ben doesn't die as Bill was by Cooper's side when he woke up in the finale (I figure he'd be arrested if Ben hadn't lived). Dana was not Ben's daughter, instead her piano playing, red headed sister was. James comes back to Twin Peaks. Ed stays with Nadine for awhile, before divorcing her and finally getting together with Norma. Ben manages to shut down Ghostwood. Catherine is upset.
Dopel-Cooper runs around for awhile, but eventually gets caught. Major Briggs rescues Cooper. Annie slips into a coma, but the kiss from her prince awakes her. The evil of the Black Lodge is stopped by Mike. Cooper resigns from the FBI.
All of those are quick solutions for a two hour movie or so. Another season would've had many more twists and turns.
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I was listening to it while I was posting.
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Well, the whole series is getting rereleased in one box set (the Gold Box). I'm tempted to buy the whole show again... But is that going to burn a hole in my pocket... The only other show I'd be tempted to buy again is "24" season one if it had the uncut premiere and finale episodes, as well as deleted scenes. Rereleasing a TV show is just not the same as rereleasing a movie. It's a trend I hope doesn't catch on. The difference between this and the rerelease of Alias, Buffy, S&TC, and West Wing in complete box sets was maybe one disc of extras packaged along, which was usually superfluous or bootlegged online. "Twin Peaks" has many more extras and the pilot (both versions!).
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They're including the pilot, so I'm probably going to get it unfortunately. I always think my "Region 0" dvd from Hong Kong is going to mess up my dvd players - even though I know it won't.
Plus, the prospect of seeing deleted scenes intrigues me...
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Cattivo wrote: |
I always think my "Region 0" dvd from Hong Kong is going to mess up my dvd players - even though I know it won't. |
Half the DVDs I get at the Walmart bargain bin are Region 0, so far no problems.
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Plus, the prospect of seeing deleted scenes intrigues me... |
TOTALLY!!!
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