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You say Hannah Montana, i say who the fuck cares?


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Alowishus
Joined: Aug 04 2009
PostPosted: Dec 25 2010 08:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Often i am watching stuff on youtube and i see this great post:

Quote:
You say Lady Gaga, I say The Doors
You say Hannah Montana, I say The Rolling Stones
You say Doda, I say Led Zeppelin
You say Jonas Brothers, I say The Beatles
You say Justin Bieber, I say Queen
You say Taylor Swift, I say AC/DC
95% of teens these days listen to the same crappy pop over and over again. If you're one of the 5% who still listens to real music, thumb this up, then copy & paste it to at least five videos. Don't let the spirit die


Now by no means am i fan of any of the "you say" artists. I don't even know who or what Doda is but fair play to anyone who listens to it. However apparently oh humble reader those "so-called artists" are not "real music".

So who does this great youtube user post to enlighten us to the "greats", the bands who have "revolutionisd music", the apparently real music?

1. The Doors: Hi we are The Doors, people think we are so edgy and cool because our frontman took loads of drugs and man we are such a "trippy" band despite the fact that most of the songs we write are total shite and unmemorable.

2. Rolling Stones: Hi we are the Rolling Stones we made most of our good music about 40 years ago however we still want to rake money in so what we do is we throw together some shit album with 10 half assed tracks and when we tour on the back of it we just play our "hits". Those stupid plebs still keep coming to see us, hahahahaha.

3. Led Zeppelin: I really like Led Zeppelin so i can't really bash them here but i could obviously just go: Hi we are Led Zeppelin, half our material is stolen from other artists.

4. The Beatles: Hi we are the Beatles. Alot of people think we are overrated, that user Alowishus really does quite like us, though you really could argue that we are in fact a pop band so we probably fit into that 95% which is supposedly shit.

5. Queen: Hi we are Queen and let us be honest here. We have loads of great songs, great sing-a-long tracks, epic masterpieces. How often do they come about? Probably one or two good tracks on each album.

6. AC/DC - Hi we are AC/DC and shit is about to hit the fucking fan. Lots of people say are music was best in the Bon Scott era, which is pretty much true since all the good songs were written then apart from obviously Back in Black. We are the epitome of generic bland rock music. Nearly every single song we have sounds the exact fucking same, we have Rolling Stones syndrome too i.e. we release a shit album and tour on the back of hits. Come to our concerts to hear 2 hours of monotony.

So it turns out that this "so called" real music is in fact is pretty much as uninspiring and bland as this pop music.

Like you may think i've been harsh here. To be fair i like tracks by all the bands but you have to admit most (if not all of the stuff i've written is true). Nearly all the albums (apart from The Beatles - first two albums are pretty crud and maybe Led Zeppelin - in through the out door is a monstrosity.) That said most of the albums they release are awful apart from a few tracks. It's also true that most of these amazing bands haven't released a good album in years and the album they do make is total shite and was only made so they could tour and make money.

Those bands aren't even the only ones who do this, i can rhyme other ones off now who are exactly the same.

Aerosmith, Van Halen, Kiss, to name a few others.

tl;dr those posts are a total farse because the bands named are mostly shit in themselves.

EDIT: Fuck, i will even throw in Iron Maiden. Brave New World or at push Dance of Death is probably the last best thing they released.
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Blackout
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PostPosted: Dec 25 2010 09:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Doors are over rated in my opinion, I can understand why they were such a big deal back in the day, but I can't stand them personally.



 
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Thorton02
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PostPosted: Dec 25 2010 09:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Meh,

All of them are good bands, but were easily played out by the time I was 21. Every now and then I'll have a Stones or Doors kick, but I rarely can listen to them on the radio or pop a cd in anymore.

I always though great music went in 10 year stages.

1952: Rock and Roll started with Bill Haley and the Comets
1962: UK invasion and American Blues revival
1972: Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Zepplin, etc
1982: Punk/hardcore revival, New Wave
1992: Grunge, college radio music, gangsta rap(debatable I know, but still unique)
2002?
2012?

BY 2002, I was out of highschool, but still in college. I'm not sure I missed what ever "it" was, but "it" couldn't have been that good. I have no idea what is going to be coming in a few years. T he music industry really killed any creativity that lead the aforementioned movements. But, we all know that where there's a disgrunteld teenage kid with a guitar, the next new wave a music is still waiting to be heard.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Dec 25 2010 10:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Stones write music because they want to, not because they have to. Bands make the majority of their money in touring and the Stones are no exception. They record new albums, because they enjoy it. And they play the hits because that's what the people want to hear. But they have so many damn hits that when you go to a Stones concert, you get an amazing show, and then you're STILL a little bummed out because they didn't play everything you wanted to hear.

The Beatles always get more praise as being the better the band. The Beatles weren't a better band. They were four guys who thought they were into the same stuff, discovered they weren't, and then ended their career with a string of critically acclaimed and highly ecclectic albums. What people seem to forget is that The White Album wasn't the way it was because of some unifying artistic brilliance, it was that way because you had four guys who all wanted to do different things. And yeah, it made for an interesting album. But a band can't function like that, and that's why the Beatles broke up.

Then, you have the Stones. You have Mick Jagger on vocals, Keith Richards on lead guitar, Charlie Watts on drums, and then depending on the era, either Bill Wyman or Darryl Jones on bass, and Brian Jones, Mick Taylor, or Ronnie Wood on rhythm guitar. For a career that's approaching 50 years, that's suprisingly little turnover. And that's because you have a band composed of guys who all want to do the same basic thing. Maybe they don't always write the most innovative songs, but that's not what songwriting is about. Songwriting is about expressing yourself and having fun. They could retire at any time, but they don't because they still enjoy doing it. And that's what the bluesmen of yesteryear that that Keith and Mick admire so much did, they kept on playing until they dropped dead.
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HardcoreGamer4Ever
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PostPosted: Dec 25 2010 10:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Alowishus wrote:
Often i am watching stuff on youtube and i see this great post:

Quote:
You say Lady Gaga, I say The Doors
You say Hannah Montana, I say The Rolling Stones
You say Doda, I say Led Zeppelin
You say Jonas Brothers, I say The Beatles
You say Justin Bieber, I say Queen
You say Taylor Swift, I say AC/DC
95% of teens these days listen to the same crappy pop over and over again. If you're one of the 5% who still listens to real music, thumb this up, then copy & paste it to at least five videos. Don't let the spirit die


Dude this shit is old. I saw this stuff over two years ago.


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RIP Happy Katana (2010-2020)
 
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Drew Linky
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PostPosted: Dec 26 2010 02:08 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'm just going to say what I usually say when it comes to stuff like this.

It's SUBJECTIVE.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Dec 27 2010 01:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I will also say this. There has always been pop and there will always be pop. Pop is short for "popular music". Kids don't listen to Lady Gaga because she's pop, she's pop because lots of kids listen to her.
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Drew Linky
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PostPosted: Dec 27 2010 11:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I want to make a Gaga joke, but I'm not going to make an ass of myself this time.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Dec 28 2010 09:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

More like Lady Gargle, amirite?
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JoshWoodzy
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PostPosted: Dec 28 2010 09:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

More like Lady "thing that all the gay men I know wish they were" amirite?


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aeonic
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PostPosted: Dec 28 2010 12:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Know what I say? Meh. Even before the advent of the Internet, music, if taken as a total "thing in itself" has been growing at a ridiculous rate, regardless as to whether everyone was aware of it or not. Most of the bands that poster/chain-spam-thingy mentioned were really big because, frankly, there weren't as many choices back then that were available to the listening/media public, mostly because of the record industry at the time. As the decades progressed, there's been an exponential growth of musical genres and subgenres, and right now, you could conceivably think of anything you want to listen to and find it with enough due diligence. Other than encountering things like Lady GaGa or teh Biebz or whatever at the mall, what's your fucking problem? You determine your media intake and what it contains, unless you're too stupid to have an MP3 list or the like. Seriously, BFD. Why is this even an issue?


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Dec 28 2010 01:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You know, I like Pink Floyd a lot, and I like to consider what they did to be art, but at the same time, Dark Side of the Moon is the #3 best-selling album of all-time behind Thriller and Back In The Black and stayed on the Billboard 200 for a record 741 straight weeks. So I guess that would be the very definition of pop.

The Wall is #27.
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Drew Linky
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PostPosted: Dec 28 2010 10:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Wall actually received poor reviews from some people. I believe it's severely under-rated.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Dec 28 2010 10:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Wall is my absolute favorite Floyd album.

The reason some people don't like it as much as Wish You Were Here, Meddle, Atom Heart Mother, or DSotM is that you can't listen to it on drugs, because you will freak the fuck out. The same is true of Animals, but to a lesser extent.
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Drew Linky
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PostPosted: Dec 28 2010 11:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I listened to The Wall as a kid, I can't say I like it as much as you do. And I don't even do drugs in the first place. Which is a stupid reason for liking DSotM.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Dec 28 2010 11:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Wall was the first album I ever bought with my own money. And the first album that I ever selected for myself. Up until that point, any CDs or cassettes that I owned were only in my possession because other people decided I should own music. And I mean, a lot of it was okay, but it wasn't great.

The first Queen album I owned was a fucking live album. Who the fuck introduces a person to a band with a live album? The live stuff never sounds as good as studio versions. The only Queen song I knew at the time was "Bohemian Rhapsody", because it was all over the radio because of Wayne's World. And Bohemian Rhapsody really REALLY fucking sucks live. That song was so fucking overproduced that it can't be pulled off live. If it can, Queen sure didn't do it at Wembeley Stadium in 1986.
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Drew Linky
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PostPosted: Dec 28 2010 11:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think the first album I ever bought was the Beatles, and it was a compilation if I'm not mistaken. Unfortunately, my siblings like to jack with my shit, and it was quickly lost. You can imagine my sadness.


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Spanish Meatloaf
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PostPosted: Dec 29 2010 01:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

I like gaga more than Zeppelin.
Beatles are just okay.
AC/DC is kind of repetetive and really overplayed.
Who the fuck is Doda???
*google*
huh... she has big boobs. And is apparently the most polish artist ever.


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PostPosted: Dec 29 2010 04:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Live albums can be good, From The Muddy Banks of The Wishkah is way better than any of Nirvana's studio albums.



 
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Ross Rifle
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PostPosted: Jan 02 2011 08:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Just to use the opposite side of the coin here, I like all of the "I say" artists, but am also a huge Taylor Swift fan. She writes absolutely amazing songs (on her own) and is a very talented musician. How can you say she's not music?


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i'll_bite_your_ear
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PostPosted: Jan 02 2011 08:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ignorance?


it was the best of times
it was the blurst of times
 
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Greg the White
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PostPosted: Jan 02 2011 08:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ross Rifle wrote:
Just to use the opposite side of the coin here, I like all of the "I say" artists, but am also a huge Taylor Swift fan. She writes absolutely amazing songs (on her own) and is a very talented musician. How can you say she's not music?

I recognize her talent. She's probably the best to come out of AI since Kelly Clarkson, and one of the few with actual writing talent to go with her playing ability, but at the end of the day, it's still that type of soul voice that's just been the norm for a good ten years now. She sounds like any other pop star, but is unique in that she could hold herself up if a studio decides to walk out and take their songwriters back with them.

As far as the "I say" lists go, most will be different, and many people's lists will be the same as the last one they read.

You say you don't like all this music, I say it's more fun to dwell on music you enjoy.


So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind.
 
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PostPosted: Jan 02 2011 09:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Taylor Swift was not even on American Idol. Way to go, champ.


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PostPosted: Jan 02 2011 09:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Did I ever tell you guys how hard I got flamed on death metal forum for my idea for a Death Metal Gangsta Rap hybrid band? I got literal death threats.



 
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I was going to create a Disco/Rap hybrid called Disc-Rap with some friends under the name Dr. Soul's Thug Invasion. Our debut album was going to be called "What's Disc-Rap?".
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