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Joined: Oct 01 2009 Posts: 5316

I didn't know where to really put this, but figured since it is somewhat music related, I'd share it here. And I seriously wish I was making this up, because it's so absurd and stupid.

A few nights ago, my mom celebrated her 58th birthday, and being the good son I am, decided to call her up and wish her a Happy Birthday. We chit chatted about a few things, and before long she summed up the courage to tell me that she met someone a while ago, and she is now engaged to be married to him. I took this information in stride (in reality, my sister had found out about it long beforehand and let me know about it, but we kept our opinions to ourselves) and decided to be supportive of her, since she is pretty lonely living by herself in North Carolina.

Anyways, the topic turned to me coming to visit her on Christmas, which she was heavily pushing for, however I have very little time off work and was spending my accumulated vacation time to go to a concert. My mom inquired heavily about what concert it was and so forth, and so I was upfront that I was going to Faith No More's last U.S concert on December 1st. Since she never heard of the group and was astonished that I "actually listen to music" (growing up, I was pretty private about things because of her typical fashion of trying to control what I was into), but since I'm now in my mid-20's, I figured this wouldn't be a problem to share this information. I was wrong.

Immediately, she decided to listen to a few of their songs, then go behind my back and say that "my soul was in danger" and that I was "a satanist". Yes, my mom is one of those stereotypical Christian fundamentalists you would find during the 80's. Normally, I would just dismiss her claims and so forth, but apparently she's attempting to get a hold of my father's super superintendent, which could in theory jeopardize my father's job since he's a pastor.

I don't know what my mom's problem is. It would be nice if she wasn't so much of a psycho and could approach people, but she's always been someone who enjoys creating drama. I'm torn as to whether or not I should stop talking to her, because this is an ongoing thing, she wants to keep everyone on a short leash, and since I am an adult, that's just not going to happen. I have to just laugh about it though, because not only does she not understand Faith No More's music (just an assumption based on the name), but I doubt she even knows what the fuck a satanist is.

Anyways, just thought I'd share...it's the first time I've ever been called something to absurd.

Posted: Nov 09 2010 03:45 am

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she not understand Faith No More's music....

Holy fuck...... Shocked

Posted: Nov 09 2010 10:24 am

I could be remembering wrong here, but doesn't Faith No More have at least subtle if not slightly more noticeable Christian undertones?

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

I think you need to just stop talking to her. If she's going as far as trying to put your dad out of a job then damn dude. I doubt she's gonna see the light one day and be like "wow, I should stop being a bitch and leave everyone alone, probably."

Joined: Oct 01 2009 Posts: 5316

It's a very difficult decision for me, simply because she doesn't have anyone and I'm trying to be a good son, however the reason she's alone is because she does this to everyone. The only friend she ever had was her own mother, who was exactly the same way, but she died a few years ago. I doubt she would ever learn her lesson, she's never been one to accept responsibility.

Faith No More doesn't really have Christian undertones, at least nothing that can't be definitively interpreted as such, but there are a few songs I lean towards having a somewhat optimistic belief behind them. Their last 2 albums were definitely a lot more optimistic than their earlier work. Although I know for sure they find Scientology to be a joke.

Posted: Nov 09 2010 04:20 pm

Man i have a friend with parents almost like this but not as radical, he tells me crazy shit like this all the time he says it blows hard. Hope you some how get through it

Posted: Nov 09 2010 04:29 pm

Point out all the wars and hypocrisy and starvation and inequality and suffering in the world and tell her to stop worrying about some stupid band you like. Remember when everyone was smearing Manson and claiming that he stomps puppies and throws drugs in to the crowd and insists people murder / molest each other in the crowd? Nah, he just had his ass hanging out while he sang some doofy songs. Rolling Eyes

Posted: Nov 10 2010 12:58 am

Don't know what to tell you. Fundamentalists are usually mildly crazy people made crazier by their religion. Accept, limit contact, with any luck she'll cool down after a few years.

Posted: Nov 10 2010 06:20 am

Yeah, all you can do is stop talking to her for a while and see what happens. The only way she'll ever wise up and realize what she's doing is when everyone has left her and she's truly alone. Then again, it may just confirm that you're a Satan loving cult member to her. Crazy people are crazy.

Posted: Nov 11 2010 02:59 pm

This is why I dislike all organized religions. I know not all religious people are batshit crazy fundamentalists, but all the same I just can't get my head around religion in general. How can people be so damn sure about these things where there is absolutely no proof, and the only reason you believe it yourself is because it's been fed to you since the cradle.

Rant over. If I get banned for this post, fare thee well, all.

Joined: Oct 01 2009 Posts: 5316

Faith goes beyond proof in my opinion, if there was proof, there would be no reason to have faith and belief would be a reality. If there is a "God", then I feel that giving people the choice to believe what they want is the way to go. Afterall, if there was an actual proof of a God, wouldn't that mean that we would all believe? I like to think if there was a God, that he's some sort of ironic bastard, who gets joy out of fucking with us, much like a 7 year old child would do with an ant farm.

I tend to give organized religion the benefit of the doubt, even though I'm agnostic. But the fundamentalists who try to make excuses for things and believe everything is ungodly is ridiculous. The idiots who believe the world is only 6,000 years old and that man lived with dinosaurs and literally interpret the Bible word for word are batshit insane.

Posted: Nov 11 2010 04:56 pm

Just to clarify my position a little further, I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with having a general belief or hope that there is something out there beyond what we see on Earth. If you want to believe that there is some diety, or perhaps some Starwars-like force to which we all return or whatever, that's fine with me.

My issues lie with putting specifics to such beliefs. Giving your gods specific names and applying various rules and beliefs to your religion is pure bullshit, because you don't know what's out there, and you don't know anything specific about it. From the pope down to the most staunch atheist, we're all in the same boat. None of us know what's out there.

Posted: Nov 11 2010 06:55 pm

Before I skirt rule number 6 and possibly get warned I'd like to state the following.

1: I was raised to believe that God gave you a brain for a reason, and refusing to use it is never a good thing. IE questioning things is never wrong, it may turn out to be stupid or moot or even silly but it's never wrong, because through questioning you can separate the bullshit from the awesomesauce.

2: Any statements relating to or involving my endorsement of monotheistic religion and Christianity in particular is not a condemnation / mockery / flaming / whatever of anyone who disagrees / does not believe /embraces an entirely different religion / school of thought / etc etc. I'm firmly a if it floats your boat and doesn't hurt anyone I don't care what you do kind of guy, I just know what works for me, noy necessarily you.

IMO the problem with fundamentalist / evangelical / whatever you want to call it / Christianity (and I guess many other monotheistic religions in general) is that many of the most vocal people are too focused on telling everyone else around them off, you're going to go to hell, what you're doing is evil, etc etc ad nauseum. (once gain this is an IMO thing) Many of the more vocal seem to be forgetting or ignoring things like He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone, and Judge not lest ye be judged, the whole mote in the eye bit etc etc, which to me * means mind your own damn business and work on yourself, instead of trying to boss everyone else around.

Also, have you considered the fact that she may be assuming the band is "evil" based of their name? Has she tried actually listening to them instead of immediately stamping a judgement on it without reviewing it? The only reason I ask is that I have family members who are more devout (in their words, in my words it's more close minded and judgmental, so I guess that's a mark against me for judging not lest ye be judged, good thing the whole "There is not a righteous man on the earth, who doeth good, and sinneth not" gives me some sort of excuse for that right? Confused

") who pull this kind of stuff all the time. Oh we don't watch the Simpsons, it's immoral / evil / a bad influence / vulgar etc etc, and when I ask them how they came to that conclusion the answer I get is usually a combination of someone else (or sometimes a group of people) came to this conclusion without asking for my thoughts on the matter, and I accept it without review or criticism, and knee jerk assumptions like Homer drinks, ergo the Simpsons promotes Alcoholism, which as many of know is a really skewed way of seeing things.

So have her check them out and judge them on the message and general feeling their music has, and then have her compare it to all the lying cheating stealing murdar warfare hypocrisy and inequality and injustice in the world that you can definitely prove is in abundance ( as apposed to some silly plot to pervert people with music ) and see if she feels the same. Don't just write her off as crazy without trying to make some sort of breakthrough.

* Anyone who points out that me saying people shouldn't be focused on how others are living and should focus instead upon bettering themselves, and then basing my entire argument on how I think these "other" people are DOING IT RONG is a massive case of hypocrisy gets a cookie! *

TL;DR, people are stupid dicks by nature, try to talk them out of it before you write them off as wieners, you may just convert them from dirty trucks stop hot dog to tastey greasy Jimmy Dean Sausage yet! Either way you you have a high chance of dying of some sort of fucked up cancer anyways... Very Happy

Joined: Aug 04 2009 Posts: 2515

Guess i'm lucky both my parents like Faith No More then haha!

Joined: Apr 09 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3112

Just enjoy what good times you can with your family. I get the "You're going to hell, you Cobamanist, now pass your lighter" speech occasionally on the holidays, but ultimately, your family loves and cares about you, and it's not really worth throwing away if you can both listen to music that makes you a happy, productive person while keeping a healthy relationship with your loved ones at the same time.

Posted: Nov 12 2010 03:34 am

I'm through trying to argue with fundamentalists. Instead I just try to find the humor in what they believe. For instance, did Mary ever take an abstinence pledge?

Posted: Nov 12 2010 08:02 am

Blackout wrote:

1: I was raised to believe that God gave you a brain for a reason, and refusing to use it is never a good thing. IE questioning things is never wrong, it may turn out to be stupid or moot or even silly but it's never wrong, because through questioning you can separate the bullshit from the awesomesauce.

"I do not believe the same God who gifted man with reason and intellect meant for him not to use it," -Galileo Galilei

Not quite the same boat as you dodd, but my mom freaked out the same way (and degree) when she found out I was a furry. Letting that slide, there is a time when being the good son gives way to watching out for yourself, maybe send her a Christmas card but stopping talk with her may be the best course for you.

Posted: Nov 12 2010 08:07 am

My mom's never accused me on being a Satanist. And I listen to Venom, who have lyrics like this:

"Evil! In league with Satan! Evil! In league with Satan!"

Joined: Sep 10 2010 Location: Kearney, NE Posts: 65

Faith no more rules. I had no clue they got back together for a reunion tour. You better go to it.

I wish they went some where else besides CA, like to Denver so I could see them.

Joined: Oct 01 2009 Posts: 5316

Funny thing, I'm actually flying into Denver to switch flights.

Posted: Nov 19 2010 09:41 am

your moms disappointed that you choose to go to a concert before meeting her on christmas. every mother in the world would be. so don't bother. choose what feels right. every mother as the let her son go, so don't take it to serious if she fucks around. she tried to offend you calling you a satanist so that you would decide to meet her on christmas. my personal opinion: go to that fucking concert and have some fun.

Posted: Nov 19 2010 10:09 am

Greg the White wrote:

but ultimately, your family loves and cares about you

We all like to make that assumption, but the truth is, there are people out there who are only in this world for themselves and could give a fuck less what happens to other people, even their own kids.

Posted: Nov 19 2010 10:24 am

if that comment is somehow related to my post i have to explain myself. by writing "go to that fucking concert and have some fun." i only intended to try making doddsino seeing that whole case not to serious. i love my family with all my heart and i would never turn my back on them. i'am sorry if it sounded cold hearted. but your mother is a human being too and humans sometimes expect to much from the people around them, she could also be cool and wanting to have him some fun at the concert. that wouldn't be wrong in anyway. and for future arguments: i know this board got some opinions and views of the world that mostly all of the users that join here would agree, lets say somehow would agree if you know what i mean, but to say it boldly, i grew up using my own head forming mostly my own opinions so sometimes we won't agree. i joined this board because the people here are open-minded and good hearted, so i beg for acceptance even if my points of view do seem uncommon or strange. i will try to do the same. thanks.

Posted: Nov 19 2010 10:48 am

It's related to the comment that I quoted!

Posted: Nov 19 2010 10:56 am

oh... well then feel free to ignore my comment.