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Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
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PostPosted: Aug 15 2010 04:17 am Reply with quote Back to top

I like the idea behind hardcore mode, it never made sense to me that ammo was weightless in FO3, I used to always stockpile ammo at my house and take what I thought was a reasonable amount with me when I left.



 
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Alowishus
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PostPosted: Aug 15 2010 08:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

I am playing through Fallout 3 at the moment.

I had real problems getting into it as boredom tended to sink in within about 10 minutes of playing. I guess the problem i have with it is that i am one of these people when i play a game i want to be able to do everything, do all the quests etc.

Early in the game there is the problems of getting bogged down in so many quests you don't know what to do.

E.g. You get all those quests in Megaton, Survival guide etc. but then you can blow up Megaton, but i don't want to do that until i do all the quests and get the perks etc. So i have to find time to do all that before the game ends. I find it almost stressful and like some sort of OCD is kicking in.

I started up playing now and i have decided fuck it and am just going to be a badass and kill everyone. Lucas Simms has already bitten the dust.

In terms of the new game, i might have problems with it like above if the new game is anything like that.

When i watched spoonys review he said it was pretty was the same game in a new place. So unless i get into Fallout 3 i won't probably get the new one.

To answer your question..

Am i excited.. Not really.
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Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
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PostPosted: Aug 15 2010 11:06 am Reply with quote Back to top

Eh, I tend to scout around and do quests based on how urgent they seem, for example in the middle of the Agatha's Song quest I stumbled too far and located the Riley's Ranger's quest, since they needed help ASAP I started that one and will finish it before retrieving Agatha's stupid violin because you know, they're trapped at the top of a hotel by mutants and running out of ammo, and Agatha just wants to send me on a fetch quest.

I've never really finished the main quest because I heard it ends and you can't play anymore, I figure I'll finish it last when I've done the majority of the side quests.



 
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PostPosted: Aug 15 2010 11:27 am Reply with quote Back to top

Blackout wrote:

I've never really finished the main quest because I heard it ends and you can't play anymore, I figure I'll finish it last when I've done the majority of the side quests.


If you buy the Broken Steel DLC you can keep playing after the main quest on the disc is over. I really liked that DLC.

I liked Fallout 3 a lot, I just love the whole post-apocalyptic atmosphere. I can't wait for Fallout: New Vegas. Even if it's basically the same game in a different place, I'll be ok with that because I loved Fallout 3.


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Preng
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PostPosted: Aug 15 2010 11:59 am Reply with quote Back to top

I really enjoyed Fallout 3. However, something tells me that Fallout: New Vegas will eventually have as much DLC as Fallout 3. I'll be keeping tabs with the game although I probably won't buy it until the Game of the Year / DLC Already-Included version is released.

The hardcore mode looks interesting, but I'd really like to see some improvements to enemy artificial intelligence. Also, the player controls in Fallout 3 felt a bit slow and clunky to me, so I'm hoping this issue has been refined a bit.
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SteelBallRun
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PostPosted: Aug 15 2010 01:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'll only be excited if they include a little more variety to the type of character yonou play. Fallout 2 gave you the option of never having to resort to violence to complete the game, and I'd like to play something more than generic human guy and rely on either energy weapons or small guns for everything.
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Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
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PostPosted: Aug 15 2010 01:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SteelBallRun wrote:
I'll only be excited if they include a little more variety to the type of character yonou play. Fallout 2 gave you the option of never having to resort to violence to complete the game, and I'd like to play something more than generic human guy and rely on either energy weapons or small guns for everything.

Yeah you have a point, I can't really think of a way to beat the Bethesda's Fallout without resorting to violence at some point...

But then again, how fun was it actually doing that? Post Apocalyptica is supposed to be violent, would you have enjoyed Mad Max if Mel's character was basically Gandhi?

Actually speaking of Mad Max, I think that's what I like about Fallout so much, it feels like I'm playing Mad Max: The Game (minus driving).



 
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PostPosted: Aug 15 2010 01:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Did not play Fallout 3, watched a buddy play it a ton and looked pretty good.

I think I may purchase this at some point, but what Preng said.


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PostPosted: Aug 16 2010 05:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

I would really like to get the Collector's Edition, but I'm afraid I won't be able to save enough money for it in time. I really enjoyed Fallout 3, so I am pretty excited.


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Preng
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PostPosted: Aug 16 2010 10:22 am Reply with quote Back to top

SteelBallRun wrote:
I'll only be excited if they include a little more variety to the type of character yonou play. Fallout 2 gave you the option of never having to resort to violence to complete the game, and I'd like to play something more than generic human guy and rely on either energy weapons or small guns for everything.

I agree, and more on the non-violent gametype coming. Something that I would like to see in games like The Elder Scrolls and Fallout is the ability to start a new game as a character from a different background or locale. Using Fallout 3 as an example, no matter how many playthroughs you start up, you're always the kid from Vault 101. Why not start off as a Bandit in the wastelands, or a trader in the cities? I figure each character's main questline and dialog would be different, but for these large game worlds it's a bit of a shame to me that your background is always the same.

It looks like Fallout: New Vegas starts you off as a courier character with no remembered background. I guess this lets the player create their own idea of who their character was and will be, but I also think it would be neat to have some choices on who you are at Level 1.

Blackout wrote:
Yeah you have a point, I can't really think of a way to beat the Bethesda's Fallout without resorting to violence at some point...

But then again, how fun was it actually doing that? Post Apocalyptica is supposed to be violent, would you have enjoyed Mad Max if Mel's character was basically Gandhi?

Actually speaking of Mad Max, I think that's what I like about Fallout so much, it feels like I'm playing Mad Max: The Game (minus driving).

Apparently Fallout 3 was supposed to feature some way to get through the main questline with a notable minimum of violence. If memory serves, before the game was released the Bethesda folks talked about an achievement you could unlock by only killing those who you absolutely had to.

I think a charismatic character would be fun to try out, but to me it feels as if Fallout 3 was essentially designed around shooting people into bits and pieces. Although most questlines offer dialog that can make enemies stand down, you can't really interact with the random bandit patrols and such while out in the wilderness, so to me Charisma ended up being the least beneficial stat in the game.
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PostPosted: Aug 16 2010 01:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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But then again, how fun was it actually doing that? Post Apocalyptica is supposed to be violent, would you have enjoyed Mad Max if Mel's character was basically Gandhi?


While the setting does lean towards violence, I'd like to have more options to explore. Better stealth, being able to negoiate, etc... I do believe a sci-fi apocalyptic setting could handle it well.

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Something that I would like to see in games like The Elder Scrolls and Fallout is the ability to start a new game as a character from a different background or locale.


This. What would also be nice is that instead of having one large storyline that all of the backgrounds would migrate towards (ala Dragon Age), having smaller overlapping ones.

One other idea I'd like to see is the replacement of the typical good/evil system with a series ofethics codes that you could adhere to. Say you're a bandit. In order to truly be seen as such, you have some guidelines to follow. The more you do, the more others perceive you as such and can affect in game relationships and alliances/rivalries.
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PostPosted: Aug 16 2010 01:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I feel like Fallout 3 and Oblivion are the same game, just different settings and stories. But for some reason...I really don't like Fallout 3. I don't know why. Maybe I like fantasy more than sci-fi, but I could play Oblivion over and over, but I finished Fallout 3 and never picked it up again. Go figure :/

As for New Vegas, won't get it. My mom might, but I'm advising against it. Just don't think it will be worth it until it's $30 or something.


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PostPosted: Aug 17 2010 04:21 am Reply with quote Back to top

Preng wrote:
Blackout wrote:
Yeah you have a point, I can't really think of a way to beat the Bethesda's Fallout without resorting to violence at some point...

But then again, how fun was it actually doing that? Post Apocalyptica is supposed to be violent, would you have enjoyed Mad Max if Mel's character was basically Gandhi?

Actually speaking of Mad Max, I think that's what I like about Fallout so much, it feels like I'm playing Mad Max: The Game (minus driving).

Apparently Fallout 3 was supposed to feature some way to get through the main questline with a notable minimum of violence. If memory serves, before the game was released the Bethesda folks talked about an achievement you could unlock by only killing those who you absolutely had to.

I think a charismatic character would be fun to try out, but to me it feels as if Fallout 3 was essentially designed around shooting people into bits and pieces. Although most questlines offer dialog that can make enemies stand down, you can't really interact with the random bandit patrols and such while out in the wilderness, so to me Charisma ended up being the least beneficial stat in the game.

If I remember correctly, almost all of the "Boss Battles" could be talked around, even the final one. If it weren't for the random bandit encounters and certain non talkative bosses, I believe the entire game could be played, Ghandi-style.


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PostPosted: Aug 17 2010 11:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

[quote]If I remember correctly, almost all of the "Boss Battles" could be talked around, even the final one. If it weren't for the random bandit encounters and certain non talkative bosses, I believe the entire game could be played, Ghandi-style.[code]

It would require a lot of Stealth boys and some very good sneaking. Fighting that Super Behemoth would be a total bitch. Sounds like it would make for a good challenge.
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PostPosted: Aug 18 2010 06:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I only enjoyed FO3 after I had modded the hell out of it. Then yes, it became magnificent, enthralling, whatever you want.

I guess the same's about to happen with FO:NV?


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Blackout
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PostPosted: Aug 18 2010 07:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I really want to try some of the mods, but I'm stuck on a 360. Sad



 
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PostPosted: Aug 18 2010 08:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I am poor, so no new games are on my radar. I want this so bad though, loved FO3, even without mods, and grrr...... Want so much


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PostPosted: Aug 18 2010 08:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

InvaderDim wrote:
I am poor, so no new games are on my radar. I want this so bad though, loved FO3, even without mods, and grrr...... Want so much

What he said.


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Blackout
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PostPosted: Aug 18 2010 09:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've always really liked how Bethesda releases modding resources, how come more game companies don't do this?



 
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PostPosted: Aug 18 2010 10:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'd be more interested if wasn't using the same Elder Scrolls engine involving weak animation, and probably tons of bugs. I love Fallout 3, I've thrown so many hours into trying to find every location and unique item, but I don't think I could do a game with just as many bugs, and a tiny list of voice actors.

Upon playing Morrowind again recently, I was struck with how much more I liked the text dialogue. Not only can I imagine a new voice actor reading it in my head, but each character can say more than just one or two sentences of dialogue. I'm not saying that it has to go back to this way, I just found it funny.

I'll probably end up buying New Vegas somewhere down the line (The whole weapon mod system has me interested), but I'm not going to be buying on day one unless something gets me really hyped.


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Blackout
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PostPosted: Aug 18 2010 10:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'll agree on the voice acting vs text, half the time I skip voice overs and read what they said because it's faster.



 
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Alowishus
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PostPosted: Aug 19 2010 09:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

Okay i cited my hate earlier but i must say i am sort of getting into it a bit more and actually enjoying it.

Hell i may even pick up New Vegas though i still wont play on the hardcore mode were ammo counts as weight and you have to eat and drink to survive.

I have trouble enough managing how much i can carry never mind having ammo count as well!!!
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PostPosted: Aug 19 2010 06:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Fuck yeah dude, I've been playing 3 wishing it was New Vegas all week.


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PostPosted: Aug 20 2010 06:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I haven't played Fallout 3 yet, I'm currently running through the SNES catalog trying to finally beat some games.


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PostPosted: Aug 20 2010 08:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Provided it reviews well, this will probably be a first week purchase. If it doesn't review too well I'll be renting it first.


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