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Posted: Oct 30 2009 04:01 am

I was actually kinda bored with this week's episode. The only thing that stood out was Parkman thinking he was killing off Sylar with booze, only to wake up and actually be Sylar. I guess it does set up an interesting scenario-- Sylar (Matt Parkman) vs. Sylar ("Nathan")

Posted: Oct 30 2009 02:09 pm

I'm really liking Sullivan as the sympathetic villain. He's got the whole Brotherhood of Mutants thing going on.

Posted: Nov 02 2009 11:06 pm

Tonight's episode was pretty good, some spoilers ahead:
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The western style battle between Hiro and Sylar was cool, even thought it wasn't really a fight but the camera angles and what not were like old western movies. After all the episode was called "Once Upon A Time In Texas."

Sullivan in this episode was a really interesting villain and how he is making Hiro do his bidding to get Charlie back. Also they finally had a scene with Mohinder, even though he was dead and it implies that Sullivan killed him and needs Hiro to go back in time to fix his mistake.

I could have done without the Noah sub-plot though.

Another solid episode overall.

The preview for next episode looked good too. I'm interested to see what the sorority leader is planning for Claire/Noah. Also the Sylar Parkman bit was cool:

Parkman-"You just killed him."

Sylar-"No I didn't, you did."

Posted: Nov 03 2009 09:53 am

Absolutely loved this episode.

Did they actually bring back Eden and Isaac to reshoot that scene, or did they just integrate the old footage into the episode?

Posted: Nov 03 2009 10:20 am

Syd Lexia wrote:

Absolutely loved this episode.

Did they actually bring back Eden and Isaac to reshoot that scene, or did they just integrate the old footage into the episode?

I'm not sure. I looked up Heroes on IMDb and the guy who played Isaac wasn't credited for last night's episode. He could just have been uncredited. But we finally get to see Mohinder. I'm interested to see how that storyline turns out.

Posted: Nov 03 2009 05:26 pm

I'm wondering if Hiro changed the past more than he meant. After he tells Sylar his future and sends him down the street, Sylar gets this interesting look on his face, like he's been given a lot to think about. He could have easily gone back after Hiro and Charlie, but didn't. And the fact that he didn't is either really good writing or really sloppy writing. I'm hoping it's the first one, but the show's track record is not good.

Posted: Nov 03 2009 08:04 pm

To be honest I wanted this episode to be a lead in for the season one episode "5 Years Gone." In that episode it is an alternate future where New York has been blown up. Sylar in that episode is said to have gotten Claire's power and when Hiro stabs him in the huge battle on the rooftop he just heals and allows Peter to explode since Nathan couldn't get to Peter with Sylar there.

They could have had Hiro mess up that timeline which would make the "5 Years Gone" scenario possible. I just loved that episode and they really should revisit it someday.

Also why wouldn't Hiro ask Sylar to cure his tumor as well? Maybe if he did he knew he would be open to an attack by Sylar and getting his power taken. Sylar with time traveling powers would be kind of interesting.

I just read this, it looks like they are really done with the character of Nathan:
http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/heroes-star-learns-of-his-characters-death-from-script--751

Posted: Nov 03 2009 08:21 pm

That kinda sucks, but as the article states, not at all surprising. I hope they at least keep the door open that Nathan's personality could reemerge within Sylar.

I liked that both Ando and Season 1 Hiro asked about the sword.

Posted: Nov 08 2009 07:44 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

That kinda sucks, but as the article states, not at all surprising. I hope they at least keep the door open that Nathan's personality could reemerge within Sylar.

I liked that both Ando and Season 1 Hiro asked about the sword.

It kind of already has. In an earlier episode when Sylar is at the carnival he tells somebody to call him Nathan. Also when he shakes one person's hand he says something like "I feel like I've shaken a lot of hands lately...was I a politician?" Also when Sylar sees Tracy he is talking to Sullivan and says something like "I know her, we flew together."

Posted: Nov 09 2009 02:20 pm

I wonder if they reused footage of Eden and Isaac from Season One, or if they actually got them both back to guest star in this episode. I know Syd mentioned it already, but considering how much they're calling back Season One, I thought it was worth another mention. It's also interesting to see Season One from a new perspective. I'm starting to like Sullivan more and more as a villain, I just wish they'd get around to fucking explaining what he's up to. It's been, what, seven or eight episodes, and the compass is gone, and we STILL don't have a fucking clue? What's Sullivan's angle-- domination,or just a safe place for superpowered individuals?

I kind of hope Parkman is overtaken by Sylar, I think it'd be interesting to see a face from the beginning finally make a horrific heel turn. They've already teased it in several bad futures, and it's more on track with the 5 Years Gone season. Presumably, they can do it if Sylar somehow regains his memories without removing them from Parkman, making them both villains. However, I wonder if Hiro letting Sylar in on his future may change things.

Also, it was interesting to see someone besides Peter or Claire go up against Sylar. Watching Hiro versus Sylar one on one, even just repeatedly freezing time and walking around him, is awesome.

Posted: Nov 09 2009 07:37 pm

Undeath wrote:

I wonder if they reused footage of Eden and Isaac from Season One, or if they actually got them both back to guest star in this episode. I know Syd mentioned it already, but considering how much they're calling back Season One, I thought it was worth another mention. It's also interesting to see Season One from a new perspective. I'm starting to like Sullivan more and more as a villain, I just wish they'd get around to fucking explaining what he's up to. It's been, what, seven or eight episodes, and the compass is gone, and we STILL don't have a fucking clue? What's Sullivan's angle-- domination,or just a safe place for superpowered individuals?

I kind of hope Parkman is overtaken by Sylar, I think it'd be interesting to see a face from the beginning finally make a horrific heel turn. They've already teased it in several bad futures, and it's more on track with the 5 Years Gone season. Presumably, they can do it if Sylar somehow regains his memories without removing them from Parkman, making them both villains. However, I wonder if Hiro letting Sylar in on his future may change things.

Also, it was interesting to see someone besides Peter or Claire go up against Sylar. Watching Hiro versus Sylar one on one, even just repeatedly freezing time and walking around him, is awesome.

They had the compass in the episode from a couple weeks ago. Sullivan gives Tracy a compass in that episode but they haven't mentioned it since. 5 Years Gone is my favorite episode and I think if they can link into that episode somehow it would be awesome. They easily could have had the storyline from season 3 where Nathan is rounding up people with powers as a way into 5 Years Gone as in that episode Sylar tells Peter that Nathan had already turned on his own kind before Sylar killed him.

They could have used the parts about Nathan rounding up and locking up people with powers as Sylar put it "turning on his own kind." Also in the first episode(technically second episode since it was a double episode) of season 3, The Butterfly Effect it shows the future version of Claire and she has the same hair color as she did in 5 Years Gone.

Anyway I'm really looking forward to tonight's episode. Also don't you all think when the Sylar at the carnival gets his memories back he'll just kill everyone at the carnival and take their powers? That would be an ironic end for them if that happened. It would also be interesting.

Posted: Nov 09 2009 10:59 pm

Tonight's episode was great as well. I didn't care for the Claire stuff earlier in this season but tonight's Claire story was interesting. Also the Sylar/Parkman stuff this episode was awesome.

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I wonder what they will do with Parkman/Sylar since Parkman allowed himself to get shot by the police. Also that article linked earlier said they are done with the Nathan character yet he briefly showed up in this episode and flew away from the carnival. Parkman also told Sylar the truth about what happened to his body at the end of season three. I'm interested to see what they will do with the Sylar/Parkman stuff next week since Parkman got shot multiple times. Nevermind...the preview for next week shows that Peter saves Parkman.

Posted: Nov 10 2009 03:14 pm

Well, presumably Nathan will be "killed" when Sylar finally finds him.

Posted: Nov 12 2009 11:07 am

Syd Lexia wrote:

Well, presumably Nathan will be "killed" when Sylar finally finds him.

I'm guessing they will put Sylar's mind back in his body essentially killing the Nathan personality. In a way I don't want them to do this because the whole Sylar/Parkman situation is really interesting and I really don't want them to end it, or at least as soon as they might.

Posted: Nov 16 2009 10:59 pm

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Didn't they burn Nathan's body at the end of season three? The Sylar/Parkman stuff was interesting and finally Mohinder gets some screen time. The Tracy/Claire stuff was interesting too. I wonder what will happen to Peter since he took Nathan/Sylar's flight power. Overall another good episode.

Posted: Nov 17 2009 01:41 am

No, they burned "Sylar"/the shapeshifting guy whose name escapes me at the end of Season Three. I like that Mohinder didn't stay dead, and I was kind of just numb to the whole "Sullivan gets stronger, the more powered people he's around." I like that they finally ATTEMPTED to explain the compass, but bah. I DO like that, even though Sylar got back into his own body, he's still not quite Sylar, but "Nathan" dealing with being Sylar, but with Peter's healing power gone, I see another ass pull coming if they want to resurrect the original Nathan and heal Hiro.

Posted: Nov 17 2009 05:44 pm

Undeath wrote:

No, they burned "Sylar"/the shapeshifting guy whose name escapes me at the end of Season Three. I like that Mohinder didn't stay dead, and I was kind of just numb to the whole "Sullivan gets stronger, the more powered people he's around." I like that they finally ATTEMPTED to explain the compass, but bah. I DO like that, even though Sylar got back into his own body, he's still not quite Sylar, but "Nathan" dealing with being Sylar, but with Peter's healing power gone, I see another ass pull coming if they want to resurrect the original Nathan and heal Hiro.

I was thinking why didn't Peter try t heal the body of Nathan?

Posted: Nov 18 2009 05:03 pm

Nathan's dead. Could Peter resurrect the dead withat that power? Or could he just heal the sick and dying? They never really covered resurrection when they did the kid's story.

Peter can no longer save Hiro, so what now? They won't kill him off, unless they get cancelled. Even then, they'd probably leave him alive to keep their movie options open. Also, we've seen Peter fly, but is that all he can do? My understanding is that he copies the powers of any powered person he touches. So then, does he have ALL of Sylar's powers? If so, it might be time to wear gloves. Like Rogue. I hope that's the case. I miss Super Peter.

Posted: Nov 20 2009 05:01 pm

This season is appears that he can only have one power at a time and he loses the previous power. When he took Hiro's power and then got the healing power Noah said something about a flight back to New York since he can only have one power at a time. I think his encounter with his father is why he can only have one and not many like he did earlier.

Posted: Nov 20 2009 05:21 pm

Now, hold on. We don't know Peter can only have one power at a time; we know he can only have ONE PERSON'S power at a time. And Peter touched Sylar, not Nathan. So Peter could very well have all of Sylar's powers, whether he realizes it or not.

Also, what about Angela's dream that Nathan would save them all? If he's been killed off before Christmas, I guess that's not happening.

Posted: Nov 25 2009 08:49 pm

The stuff with Sylar on the newest episode was pretty good. The Bennett Thanksgiving was kind of weird, I didn't care for it.

Posted: Nov 25 2009 08:57 pm

Poor Hiro. He's apparently lost his memory... AGAIN. Jesus Christ.

Also, SHOCKING REVEAL! Samuel killed Joseph. Like we didn't know.

Claire is so fucking dumb. It's a shame she can't die, because she deserves to. "Let's go look for the guy who presumably caused all those bad things in the newspaper clippings on my dad's wall!"

Next week is supposed Nathan's last episode. Crying

Since Nathan's death was one of the worst-kept secrets in the history of television, maybe they'll reverse it with some Hiro time travel just to swerve us. Of course, that's assuming that the show gets another season, which may not happen.

Posted: Nov 28 2009 10:54 am

Claire has this really interesting ability but they keep putting her in dumb, boring situations.

Posted: Nov 28 2009 10:50 pm

You know, I just realized both of Claire's biological parents are dead. A shame, because they were two of the best characters on the show.

Posted: Nov 29 2009 02:34 pm

I like that they're teasing Ray Park's character becoming hero-ish. Ray Park did wonders for the character of Toad in the X-Men movie, maybe he'll awesome it up here too now that they've seemingly given him something to do. I know I may be in the minority, but I've actually kind of missed Mohinder, and it was nice to see him again.

I wonder which powers Peter absorbed from Sylar, or if he's capable of absorbing them all.

My biggest complaint is that they went out of their way to give Peter a healing power, presumably to fix Hiro (and now Nathan by extension) and they kind of threw it away. Now what? Is Hiro going to time travel to a few days ago when Peter had the healing touch and Deus Ex Machina it all away? God dammit.

Since they've constantly teased us with Sylar heel-face turns all throughout the goddamn series, one wonders if they'll match him up against a fully powered Samuel, since they're hyping Samuel as ultra powerful. But probably not. Hiro's probably going to teleport behind him and give him the atomic wedgie of death at the finale.