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sidewaydriver
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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 03:59 am Reply with quote Back to top

You know how a lot of times a band will come out with an album that'll be so huge and popular that it pretty much becomes their definitive album? Usually when that happens, no matter what they release afterwards, whether it's a new direction or more of the same, it gets shit on because what came before was so popular, so popular and overplayed that people get sick of it. Or even old stuff that went unnoticed until they adopted a more mainstream sound. I've always had a taste for obscurity so I like to look at lesser known/appreciated albums from these bands to draw my own opinion rather go by common perception. A lot of times you may find that it was just ahead of it's time. I also think people's reactions are interesting when you tell them such an album by that band is your favorite. Here are a few for me, what are some of yours? Let's discuss.

Adore by Smashing Pumpkins- This is a fantastic and well done album, it saddens me that it gets no attention at all. I don't think I've met anyone else that likes it. It's got a great style and it blends different sounds that make it hard to put in a catagory. It's a very mellow and thoughtful album. Whenever I listen to it from begining to end, it makes the time seem like a dream. Machina is also a very underrated album as well.

Meddle by Pink Floyd- This is a turning point album where you can really hear the band develope their sound and it's a great precurser to Darkside of the Moon. To me, the album is a bridge between the old and the new.

Elegantly Wasted by INXS- I'm not a big fan of theirs but I do enjoy a good bit on this album. A guy I used to work with happened to play it one day and I asked who it was. I was really surprised that the album wasn't very well received at all especially since I think the title track is the best song I've heard by the band. Of course it came out long after their peak but even as time went on it's still not very appreciated. I even went back and checked out their older stuff to see if people were right but I can honestly say I don't like much else that this band has done.

Calling All Stations by Genesis- Here's a prime example of the new singer syndrome. It was the last album by Genesis, featuring Ray Wilson as the vocalist. This album came and went, especially here in the US. The album seems to have more a belated appreciation in retrospect these days though. I think this album is among the best of the band's work, especially after the Peter Gabriel era. Unfortunately they gave up on Ray Wilson too soon and he was pretty much written off immediately. Last summer I was still living in the UK and I went to a show where he played back up for the singer from the Cranberries, whose name escapes me at the moment. She was promoting her solo album. It was a good show and afterwards I got to meet Ray Wilson and I told him I thought he did a amazing job on this album. It was a good feeling to be able to tell someone who was overlooked that I really appreciated their contribution to a band that had forgotten about them. He said he really appreciated me saying that and I could tell he meant it.

Well that's all I can think of right now but I'll post more when I think of them. I just wanted to see some suggestions by other people and maybe get into something new that wasn't given a chance when it came out. I'd also like to hear someone else's thoughts on these albums, see if you feel the same or if you disagree.


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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 09:39 am Reply with quote Back to top

sidewaydriver wrote:

Meddle by Pink Floyd- This is a turning point album where you can really hear the band develope their sound and it's a great precurser to Darkside of the Moon. To me, the album is a bridge between the old and the new.


Of the albums you listed, this is the one that resonated with me the most. When you think of a song like "Echoes", it definitely shows a growth toward DSotM.
"Strangers passing in the street
By chance two separate glances meet
And I am you and what I see is me."
(The line I bolded is rife with philosophical and psychological meaning)

Abbey Road - When I talk Beatles with most people they say that albums such as Rubber Soul and Sgt. Pepper were the highmarks of that prestigious catalog penned by the Fab Four. Not as many people talk about Abbey Road, at least in my experience, which gave us such 'ultimate trip anthems' such as "Because" and "I Want You: She's So Heavy".

Facelift - Alice in Chains had/has a major following amongst angst-ridden teens and drugees. But it is possible to view them from a musician's standpoint, independent of other views, which shows a great deal of talent. Facelift was the debut album for Alice in Chains, and you tell me how many bands have such great songs as "Man In The Box", "Love, Hate, Love", and "Confusion" on their debut? Their FREAKIN' DEBUT!! The Cantrell/Staley duo took their songs and filled in every little nook and cranny of the sound - harmony guitar and background vocals abundant.

Out Of Our Heads - The Rolling Stones know how to fill a stadium. But what about their earlier days? People always talk about songs like "Brown Sugar" and "You Can't Always Get What You Want", but sometimes forget the songs that 'made the Stones'. Not only do you have the iconic "I Can't Get No (Satisfaction)", you also have the brilliantly penned "Play With Fire" (IMO the greatest song ever by the Stones). Add that Brian Jones was in the roster for that album and you have a Top Three Best Album of the Stones, to say the least.
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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 01:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Kiss - Hotter then Hell
R.E.M. - Monster
Green Day - Warning
Devo - Duty Now for the Future
Pixies - Bossonova
Beck - Sea Change
Live - Mental Jewelery
The Doors - Waiting for the Sun
Black Sabbath - Sabotage
Van Halen - Van Halen 2


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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 01:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Radiohead - The Bends

Nobody in the US even new this album exsisted until Radiohead got more popular during the OK Computer and Kid A era. One of my favorite radiohead albums and the music videos it spawned are awsome, Ie:

Just - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5X7HKxpiQA

Street Spirit (Fade Out) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPX3u0XJzKM
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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 07:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Pantera-The Great Southern Trendkill
Megadeth-Killing is my Business...and Business is Good!
Black Sabbath-Sabotage
Darkthrone-Soulside Journey (might not be underrated, but definitely more unknown that their later albums.)
Mastodon-Remission (After blowing up after Blood Mountain, I haven't met many fans of Mastodon's debut)


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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 07:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

enshinkarateman wrote:
Pantera-The Great Southern Trendkill
Megadeth-Killing is my Business...and Business is Good!


Those are under-rated albums for sure, but dude, how are Megadeth and Pantera over-rated?!


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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 08:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dii Infer wrote:
enshinkarateman wrote:
Pantera-The Great Southern Trendkill
Megadeth-Killing is my Business...and Business is Good!


Those are under-rated albums for sure, but dude, how are Megadeth and Pantera over-rated?!

Admittedly, I didn't catch that part of the thread. Silly me.


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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 09:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

sidewaydriver wrote:
Adore by Smashing Pumpkins- This is a fantastic and well done album, it saddens me that it gets no attention at all. I don't think I've met anyone else that likes it. It's got a great style and it blends different sounds that make it hard to put in a catagory. It's a very mellow and thoughtful album. Whenever I listen to it from begining to end, it makes the time seem like a dream. Machina is also a very underrated album as well.


I think it's a shame that people were so underwhelmed by Adore because they were expecting another Mellon Collie. Adore is actually my favorite album by the Smashing Pumpkins; every song on the album just strikes me in some way. The first time I listened to the album, I was cleaning my room when "Daphne Descends" started playing and after about six seconds into the song I just had to sit down and really listen.

Frank by Amy Winehouse - I bought Amy's second album before the first; her second album, Back to Black, is just too hit-and-miss for me to even recommend it to anyone. On the other hand, her first album is quite mellow while somehow being immediate at the same time. It's probably one of my favorite CDs.

EDIT: BTW, the lead singer of the Cranberries is Dolores O'Riordan


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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 09:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not so much going with the over-rated part, but I think 'really freaking popular' band works....

Everything between Van Halen's debut and 1984. Van Halen II is maybe the best sophomore album I've ever heard, Women and Children First is such a solid blues/metal album it's stupid, Fair Warning is even more metal than the predecessor and just ridiculously crushing and aggressive, and Diver Down is such a great road trip album.

The most under-rated Sabbath album has to be Dehumanizer. My buddy and I both agree that it is possibly the greatest metal album we've ever heard.

Judas Priest's Defenders of the Faith has so many killer cuts.

Nothing Is Sound by Switchfoot. The preceding album, The Beautiful Letdown, was their big break and is an amazing album, but Sound totally connects with me. I feel like I know exactly what the band is thinking, and it seems like the only logical step after their biggest album.

I've heard lots of negative things about Velvet Revolver's Libertad. It is far more solid than the debut. The debut was 'that guy from STP singing for those dudes from GNR', but the second album is by Velvet Revolver.

I also think GNR Lies is very under-rated. I mean it is just a double-EP, but it is such a brilliant piece. The whole half-acoustic, half-electric/live (not actually live) thing is great, and it is definitely a proper transitional piece between Appetite and the Illusion albums.

Led Zeppelin II and III. The most popular album is "IV", but it isn't nearly as innovative or intricate as the predecessors. II basically invented blues-rock/metal of the 80s, and III is just from another planet.


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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 09:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Calling All Stations by Genesis- Here's a prime example of the new singer syndrome. It was the last album by Genesis, featuring Ray Wilson as the vocalist. This album came and went, especially here in the US. The album seems to have more a belated appreciation in retrospect these days though. I think this album is among the best of the band's work, especially after the Peter Gabriel era. Unfortunately they gave up on Ray Wilson too soon and he was pretty much written off immediately. Last summer I was still living in the UK and I went to a show where he played back up for the singer from the Cranberries, whose name escapes me at the moment. She was promoting her solo album. It was a good show and afterwards I got to meet Ray Wilson and I told him I thought he did a amazing job on this album. It was a good feeling to be able to tell someone who was overlooked that I really appreciated their contribution to a band that had forgotten about them. He said he really appreciated me saying that and I could tell he meant it.


I really like Congo. Its a great song, but I just think by that time (1997) Genesis was just tired and needed a break and their listening core had moved on to greener pastures. I mean Genesis had been pumping out albums from 1970-1992 pretty much non stop. I dont think it is a bad album. I just think maybe the song, album and band would have succeeded with perhaps just another name. I havent heard the rest of the album, but I know that the carpet crawlers 1999 single that they did was great. It was just time to go for Genesis, and now they are back. Hopefully we will get another record.


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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 10:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

enshinkarateman wrote:
Dii Infer wrote:
enshinkarateman wrote:
Pantera-The Great Southern Trendkill
Megadeth-Killing is my Business...and Business is Good!


Those are under-rated albums for sure, but dude, how are Megadeth and Pantera over-rated?!

Admittedly, I didn't catch that part of the thread. Silly me.


No problem, amigo. B)


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PostPosted: Aug 20 2008 10:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Load and Reload by Metallica

Though, I guess it's debatable if Metallica is overrated or not(Maybe by hardcore Megadeth fanboys). Load and Reload, however are both underrated albums nonetheless.
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PostPosted: Aug 21 2008 03:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Bleach and Insecticide were both very underated albums by an overrated band.



 
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PostPosted: Sep 13 2008 10:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ross_rifle113 wrote:
I'm not so much going with the over-rated part, but I think 'really freaking popular' band works....

Everything between Van Halen's debut and 1984. Van Halen II is maybe the best sophomore album I've ever heard, Women and Children First is such a solid blues/metal album it's stupid, Fair Warning is even more metal than the predecessor and just ridiculously crushing and aggressive, and Diver Down is such a great road trip album.

The most under-rated Sabbath album has to be Dehumanizer. My buddy and I both agree that it is possibly the greatest metal album we've ever heard.

Judas Priest's Defenders of the Faith has so many killer cuts.

Nothing Is Sound by Switchfoot. The preceding album, The Beautiful Letdown, was their big break and is an amazing album, but Sound totally connects with me. I feel like I know exactly what the band is thinking, and it seems like the only logical step after their biggest album.

I've heard lots of negative things about Velvet Revolver's Libertad. It is far more solid than the debut. The debut was 'that guy from STP singing for those dudes from GNR', but the second album is by Velvet Revolver.

I also think GNR Lies is very under-rated. I mean it is just a double-EP, but it is such a brilliant piece. The whole half-acoustic, half-electric/live (not actually live) thing is great, and it is definitely a proper transitional piece between Appetite and the Illusion albums.

Led Zeppelin II and III. The most popular album is "IV", but it isn't nearly as innovative or intricate as the predecessors. II basically invented blues-rock/metal of the 80s, and III is just from another planet.


Definitely agree on Judas Priest's Defenders of the Faith. It gets lost in the shuffle between their poppy stuff and the badass Painkiller album, but DOTF is one of their best. "The Sentinel" is actually my favorite Priest song.


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PostPosted: Sep 14 2008 01:20 am Reply with quote Back to top

Dude, nothing can describe the power behind that opening lick...holy fuck


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PostPosted: Sep 14 2008 02:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

"Pinkerton" by Weezer is an incredible album, but not very radio-friendly. It's easily their best, but definitely overlooked by most people, save for a few entrenched music snobs.


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PostPosted: Sep 14 2008 02:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The first choice for me was One Hot Minute by Red Hot Chili Peppers.
It's probably the best thing they ever done and they neglect it. Shame on them.


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