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Teralyx
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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 07:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I don't get it. People on the internet say it was Greedo, but I notice a distinct lack of fried Han and living Greedo.


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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 07:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Han shot first, and when greedo did shoot first he missed.


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Teralyx
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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 07:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What? when greedo did... It happened 2 times?


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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 07:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Okay, Han shot Greedo before he could get a shot off. Lucass just digitally put greeto shooting first into the 'redo' of the originals.


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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 07:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I was the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll.


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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 07:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 08:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

yeah, in the original it was han shooting first.

then w/the special editions, lucas changed it so greedo shot first.

fans complained.

so in the newest dvd's they shoot around the same time.


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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 10:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

username wrote:
nerds complained.


Fixed.


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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 10:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dii Infer wrote:
username wrote:
nerds complained.


Fixed.

lol good call

honestly, its george lucas' story, so he can do whatever the fuck he wants. if he wanted to have the chupacabra eat greedo instead of anyone shooting first, he can.


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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 11:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I always believed that Greedo shot first and missed and then a split second later Han fired and then Greedo died.

Either way I dont much give a fuck. I would probably watch a youtube documentary about it though.


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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 11:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Why did Lucas change it to Greedo shooting first? I mean, does it really matter? Either way Greedo fried and Han didn't, I don't see how it matters who shot first.


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PostPosted: Aug 10 2008 11:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Cam-win wrote:
Why did Lucas change it to Greedo shooting first? I mean, does it really matter? Either way Greedo fried and Han didn't, I don't see how it matters who shot first.


I think lucas thought han looked too much like a scheming crook if he shot first, and an opportunist, which are not positive traits for heros. But han already was trying to get money out of anyone, even if the universe is at stake so yah it doesn't really make any sense.

What i would like to know is how people feel about the fact that the prequels left his origin out. I think that was the smartest movie by lucas. And what the hell is up with Chewy dying in the book series, no one wants the next Star Wars to feature the loveable furball dying.


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PostPosted: Aug 11 2008 12:16 am Reply with quote Back to top

dude. they dropped a FUCKING MOON on him.

at least he died like a badass.


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PostPosted: Aug 11 2008 12:17 am Reply with quote Back to top

I want to see what jabba the hutt looked like originally. I heard he was jsut a big fat dude.


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PostPosted: Aug 11 2008 12:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

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I want to see what jabba the hutt looked like originally. I heard he was jsut a big fat dude.

yeah big fat guy in furs w/an irish/scottish accent. or was it english? he had a beard too


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PostPosted: Aug 11 2008 01:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

username wrote:
JEW wrote:
I want to see what jabba the hutt looked like originally. I heard he was jsut a big fat dude.

yeah big fat guy in furs w/an irish/scottish accent. or was it english? he had a beard too


I don't think he had a beard, but I could be wrong. Somebody should look for a picture.
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Teralyx
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PostPosted: Aug 11 2008 06:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

JEW wrote:
I want to see what jabba the hutt looked like originally. I heard he was jsut a big fat dude.
Yeah, he was a big fat guy and had a few shots were taken with him as a fat guy, including the one where han walks in a circle around Jabba. Now this might not seem odd, but when jabba got his Tail, Han walked right through it, so SFX added a very jerky edit.


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PostPosted: Aug 11 2008 12:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I bet harrison ford was pissed when they made Greedo shoot first. It just han look slightly less badass, and harisson ford takes pride in his badass nature.


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PostPosted: Aug 11 2008 03:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Andrew Man wrote:
I bet harrison ford was pissed when they made Greedo shoot first. It just han look slightly less badass, and harisson ford takes pride in his badass nature.


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Han himself said "I happen to like to shoot first" in Brian Daley's 1979 novel Han Solo at Stars' End, following the line up with "As opposed to shooting second."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_shot_first


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PostPosted: Aug 11 2008 08:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ReeperTheSeeker wrote:
Andrew Man wrote:
I bet harrison ford was pissed when they made Greedo shoot first. It just han look slightly less badass, and harisson ford takes pride in his badass nature.


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Han himself said "I happen to like to shoot first" in Brian Daley's 1979 novel Han Solo at Stars' End, following the line up with "As opposed to shooting second."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_shot_first


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PostPosted: Aug 12 2008 02:11 am Reply with quote Back to top

I would love to see youtube vids or somethign of all this edited footage. I didnt' know about alot of this.


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PostPosted: Aug 12 2008 02:16 am Reply with quote Back to top

Yea, they could/should make a mini-documentary about it. Although it is like a 30 second scene, it says alot of Solo's character and can dramatically affect the way one interprets him. They could interview Harrison Ford and Lucas, it would definatley be interesting...


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PostPosted: Aug 12 2008 07:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

Han shooting first:



Greedo shooting first:



What really happened:




 
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PostPosted: Aug 12 2008 02:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Han shot first and if Lucas wants to unbadassitiez Han, then so be it but he still shot first.


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