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Syd Lexia
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Here they are:
15. Tony Schiavone
14. nWo 2000
13. Anti-American Jim Duggan
12. Chavo Guerrero & Pepe
11. Vince Russo in the Pope Mobile
10. Matches in the Mall of America
09. Finger Poke of Doom (Kevin Nash drops to the mat to lose his title after Hulk Hogan pokes him on 1/4/99 Nitro)
08. The Magnificent Seven (2001 faction consisting of Ric Flair, Scott Steiner, Rick Steiner, Jeff Jarrett, Lex Luger, Buff Bagwell and Road Warrior Animal)
07. "Crazy" Ric Flair
06. New Blood vs. The Millionaires
05. Steve "Mongo" McMichael
04. Disco Inferno (pictured)
03. One Warrior Nation (short-lived 1998 faction consisting of Ultimate Warrior and The Disciple a.k.a. Brutus Beefcake)
02. Misfits in Action (2000 faction consisting of Hugh Morrus, Lash LeRoux, The Wall, Chavo Guerrero, Booker T, Tylene "Major Gunns" Buck and Van Hammer)
01. David Arquette
Here are my thoughts:
15. Tony was the man. The only reason he's on this list is because he has heat with WWE Legend Mick Foley.
14. This was a good idea, except that everyone got injured and it turned into Jeff Jarrett and the Harris Boys. It was certainly better than the McMahon version.
13. McMahon has come up with worse angles.
12. That was hilarious, especially when Norman Smiley threw Pepe in the woodchipper.
11. Russo needed that Pope Mobile because he fucking ruined WCW and the fans wanted to shoot him.
10. That was a neat idea.
09. Yeah, that kinda sucked.
08. Not as good as the 4 Horsemen, but it served its purpose.
07. Ric Flair actually is crazy and that angle was amazing.
06. A great idea, sadly Vince Russo had no idea how to execute it properly. Bischoff did, but Russo drove him out as quickly as he brought him in.
05. Very true.
04. Disco Inferno fucking ruled. Anyone who says otherwise is an asshole.
03. An angle that could have been good if it had every gotten off the ground.
02. They were pretty damn cool.
01. Giving Arquette the title was far beyond idiotic.
Here are the real 15 reasons why WCW failed:
15. Brad Siegel
14. David Arquette
13. Vince Russo
12. Vince Russo
11. Vince Russo
10. Vince Russo
09. Vince Russo
08. Vince Russo
07. Vince Russo
06. Vince Russo
05. Vince Russo
04. Vince Russo
03. Vince Russo
02. Vince Russo
01. Brad Siegel
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Knyte
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You forgot:
Giving Hogan and Nash Creative Control Clauses in thier contracts.
The company being run by people who knew nothing about wrestling. (Time-Warner, after their buyout of Turner.)
Horrible Fianancial Decisions. (One example: In an effort to bring in viewers, WCW paid the band KISS $500,000 to perform on Nitro. Result = Their numbers in the ratings dropped by a full point durring the concert.)
You, Also, should have added another Russo. The Russo who decided the air 2 hour Nitros that contained 22 minutes of Wrestling. (Shortly before the collaspe of WCW, there was a joke questionare being handed out backstage, that was a questionare aimed at Russo, which such questions as "What does the 2nd 'W' in WCW stand for?")
Assigning Kevin Nash as Head Booker.
Assigning Ric Flair as Head Booker.
Give me some time, and I can come up with about 50 more.
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Syd Lexia
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Having KISS on the program wasn't a bad idea. It served to introduce The Demon to the roster and he always got huge pops when he came out.
Russo's biggest mistakes were:
1. Unmasking the luchadores in that retarded "some hispanic guy is stealing wallets in the locker room" angle. It was racist and it was completely disrespectful to the luchadores' traditions.
2. Underestimating the appeal of the old school wrestlers and overestimating the importance of internet smarks. A lot of the jaded internet fans hated Hulk "I don't sell for no one, brotha!" Hogan, but the average fan still loved him. Russo's unceremonious firing of Hogan at Bash at the Beach 2000 and his earlier decision not to resign Randy Savage showed just how out of touch he was with the common fan.
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Syd Lexia
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Flair For The Gold was old school WCW. That was before Hogan came and helped them (temporarily) crush the WWF.
When Flair returned to WCW at the end of his WWF contract in the early 90s, he had a no compete clause that prevented him from wrestling. So until it expired, he hosted Flair For The Gold. And yeah, it's easy to make fun of The Shockmaster, but the WWF had gimmicks that were just as corny. Kwang? The Godwinns? The Genius? Adam Bomb?
To be fair though, the corny gimmicks are what make wrestling fun. There are two ways a wrestling program can be entertaining:
1. Have guys with over the top gimmicks who cut entertaining promos.
2. Have guys who can do insane high flying moves or wrestling old school ECW style.
The WWE currently has very little of either. Instead they have a bunch of half-naked guys with no personality and too many tattoos who trade punches and occasionally throw in a couple of wrestling moves. It's retarded. The Hardys are fun to watch, and Rey, and Jericho, and Edge, but outside of that it's pretty meh. And when WWE does do something right, they ruin it. Carlito was over as heel and they ran him into the ground. Hurricane Helms and Pirate Paul Burchill were over, and the WWE buried them and changed their gimmicks. Booker T was over, and HHH buried him so badly that he quit the WWE. Vince's writers are fucking retards. Oh yeah, and get Hornswaggle the fuck off of my TV. Forever.
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I'm not diggin on shockmaster as i'm a big fan of Tugboat and the natural disasters. but that whole thing was a bit over the top. Its the gimmicks that are super hyped but fail to deliver that are the huge memory i have of WCW. I was so pumped for the blood runs cold as i was playing Mortal Kombat like 8 hours a day. I was very disappointed in the end result. The Paul Birchill idea was genius. They could have ridden the coatails of the PotC movies as high as they wanted yet somehow they just obliterated it. Great promos good ring work and a Finisher that looked pretty dam cool.
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Knyte
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That's why I pray that TNA's Production Values and Writing will catch up to it's quality of matches. The day that happens, WWE is fucked.
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Cattivo
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Poor Mongo. Leave that ex-Bear alone!
...Yes, I know he sucked, but I'm mandated to love him because he was on the '85 Bears. By rule, if he, or someone else like Kevin Butler would suddenly decapitate somebody like OJ, I would have to demand a Presidential Pardon for him.
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