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Lady_Satine
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from IGN movies:
Resident Evil film star Milla Jovovich sent a barrage of tweets Saturday that revealed lots of information on Resident Evil: Retribution 3D, including the news that some long-desired fan favorite characters from the game franchise have finally made it into the film series.
Jovovich's SPOILERISH tweets revealed that the fifth RE film will not include previously introduced characters Claire and Chris Redfield or K-Mart as they have now been captured by the Umbrella Corp., so it's up to Alice, Ada Wong, Leon S. Kennedy and Barry Burton to go rescue them. None of these new roles have been cast yet, but Jovovich said that Jensen Ackles, who had been rumored to play Leon in the fourth film, will be unavailable due to his TV commitments.
Also, Shawn Roberts will reprise his role as the evil Albert Wesker, who evidently was tougher to kill than the last film would have you believe. Milla added that the Las Plagas parasite will also be part of the storyline.
Jovovich also hyped up the action scenes set to be shot for the film, including a major one in Moscow's Red Square and another involving a Rolls-Royce getting shot up. She also said she has a big fight scene with Jill Valentine (Sienna Guillory).
In related news, actor Boris Kodjoe confirmed that he will be back as former pro-athlete Luther West, who was introduced in last year's Resident Evil: Afterlife as a potential love interest for Milla's Alice. RE5 begins filming October 16.
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Douche McCallister
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This is one of the few film series I wish they WOULD reboot. The whole Alice, Milla, Clone, crap is retarded. I lost interest after the 1st one, sat thru the second, and haven't watched one since. How hard is it to make a Resident Evil movie, the fucking script is already written for you. It's sad to say but I think Uwe Boll would have made this series much better.
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Fighter_McWarrior
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Oh good. Leon. The one thing that hadn't fucked up is going to get the RE movie treatment.
Awesome...
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Bob Dylan`s Blues
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Yeah these movies are unwatchable. Ironically the strait to dvd "Degeneration" was better then any of them. I thought Mila said she was going to stop doing these anyway.
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Atma
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I just want to hear Barry say:
"BLOOD?! I Hope this isn't Chris' Blood!" or "You were almost a Jill-Sandwich!"
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Atma wrote: |
I just want to hear Barry say:
"BLOOD?! I Hope this isn't Chris' Blood!" or "You were almost a Jill-Sandwich!" |
This.
I also want to hear him say "What... what is this?!" and he has to tell someone that they are the master of unlocking and/or sleeping with the ultimate failure, preferably both.
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Fighter_McWarrior
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atomjacked wrote: |
Atma wrote: |
I just want to hear Barry say:
"BLOOD?! I Hope this isn't Chris' Blood!" or "You were almost a Jill-Sandwich!" |
This.
I also want to hear him say "What... what is this?!" and he has to tell someone that they are the master of unlocking and/or sleeping with the ultimate failure, preferably both. |
That's right. If you know you're making a shitty movie going into, why half-ass the effort? There's no reason not include the bad lines that actually make people grin when there are so many that are just bad.
But let's face, it: that's never going to happen. It doesn't make much sense to reference a game that has nothing to do with the movie anyway. They threw everything but the title under the buss a long time ago.
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Yeah these movies are unwatchable. Ironically the strait to dvd "Degeneration" was better then any of them. I thought Mila said she was going to stop doing these anyway.
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This.
Although it's not really that ironic, when you think about it. Just proof that game movies don't have to suck if the people making them give a shit about the games they're based on.
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These movies would have been better if they'd stuck with the game plots. I'd watch a movie that retold the story of Resident Evil 1-3 without a doubt, I don't really care about some half-assed clone story loosely based in the game world. I mean Alice, if I recall right, isn't even really a big part of any of the games at all. I get that they felt they needed a female main character to draw the typically male gaming audience, whatever, but why couldn't we have Jill Valentine? It would have made more sense given that she was an actual main character of a game the movie is named after.
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Douche McCallister
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Beach Bum wrote: |
I mean Alice, if I recall right, isn't even really a big part of any of the games at all. I get that they felt they needed a female main character to draw the typically male gaming audience, whatever, but why couldn't we have Jill Valentine? It would have made more sense given that she was an actual main character of a game the movie is named after. |
She wasn't part of the game at all! I can't remember the trailer of the original but now I'm curious. I'm pretty sure it showed Zombies, Guns, Milla kicking a Zombie dog, and an Umbrella symbol. No one had any reason to think that she wasn't Jill or Claire, (Internet Movie info/spoilage wasn't as mainstream as it is now) so when we came in we were let down, with hopes of a better sequel with the nod to Nemesis, only to be slapped in the face.
Degeneration was a very welcome film, and I wish Capcom would look into rebooting this series the right way. Never gonna happen though
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Yeah I wasn't sure if she ever got mentioned or anything in the original game or not. Been so long since I played it, and I only played it once instead of the 6 or 7 times I went through the second game. Regardless the movies should be renamed to Random Clone Girl Kills a Zombie When She Isn't Busy Hunting the People Who Made Her, and get us some actual RE movies.
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Greg the White
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I really wish that they'd just dump the whole Alice thing as well, but since Milla is married to the director and since she's the only actor who even tries to put energy in her performance in these movies, I guess that won't happen. I think that RE would be awesome as a late-'70s, B-grade horror movie, completely detached from the rest of the universe, kind of like how RE4 did it.
Whatever, as long as I get to see Barry headbuttin' zombies, I'm down.
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Last I heard they were making a sequel to Degeneration.
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Fighter_McWarrior
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They are. It looks like it's going to be pretty badass. From what I've heard, it's essentially Leon's adventures around rural zombie Europe.
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I have seen all four non-game tie-in RE movies and it hasn't garnered complaint one from me. Why? Partly because I'm autistic, but mostly because I understand that it's typical for changes to be made when a franchise moves from one medium to another, which, in this case, really isn't so bad when you look at it next to such efforts from the 90s. And even though, as I write this, I haven't touched any of the games since 2006, I still like both the games and the movies and look forward to Retribution.
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Douche McCallister
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If they didn't name the movie Resident Evil, it would probably be a solid franchise, PROBABLY. They capitalized on the games name and turned it into something different. I liked the fact that normal people like Chris and Jill are "regular" people taking on these monstrosities, now we have a telekenetic super human. Just not the same.
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jprime
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She lost that power in the last movie.
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Fighter_McWarrior
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Douche McCallister wrote: |
If they didn't name the movie Resident Evil, it would probably be a solid franchise, PROBABLY. They capitalized on the games name and turned it into something different. I liked the fact that normal people like Chris and Jill are "regular" people taking on these monstrosities, now we have a telekenetic super human. Just not the same. |
I agree. I'm really not that guy that has to see the same story told in the exact same way in a different medium every time there's an adaptation (see The Walking Dead), but it's nice for it to at least resemble the damn thing ti's supposed to be based off of.
Also, it helps when the writing is equal or better quality when changes are made. And the movies fall way short of the games, which is saying something.
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jprime wrote: |
She lost that power in the last movie. |
Shouldn't have it to begin with
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I don't think a Resident Evil game translates well to film.
Even if they remade it will all the stupid shit taken out like the clone stuff.
There just isn't that much going on.
Take the first game:
"The game begins on July 24, 1998 after Alpha team locates Bravo team's helicopter, but there are no signs of survivors; only a severed hand is found. While searching the area for further clues, Alpha team is attacked by ferocious dogs, one of which kills one of the team's members, Joseph Frost. Alpha's helicopter pilot, Brad Vickers, panics and takes off alone. Pursued by the dogs who killed their colleague, Alpha team is forced to seek refuge within a nearby mansion. It is believed to be abandoned.
With the dogs roaming outside, the four remaining Alpha team members (Albert Wesker, Chris Redfield, Jill Valentine and Barry Burton) are trapped within. Depending on which character is the player, one of the members of Alpha team is separated from the others during the chase and does not make it to the mansion (Barry if Chris, Chris if Jill). A gunshot rings out, and the player character moves to investigate. At this point, the player takes control of the character and begins to explore the mansion. One of the first discoveries is a member of Bravo team, Kenneth J. Sullivan, being eaten by a zombie. While searching the mansion, the character finds the other members of Bravo team, such as Richard Aiken, dying of poison, who gives the character his radio before dying; Forest Speyer, found dead on the balcony; and Enrico Marini, who reveals that one member of the team is a traitor before being shot and killed by an unseen attacker. The character eventually finds the mansion to be riddled with puzzles, traps, and horrors. Scattered documents suggest that a series of illegal experiments were being undertaken on the property by a clandestine research team, under the authority and supervision of the Umbrella Corporation, a biomedical conglomerate. The creatures roaming the mansion and surrounding region are the results of these experiments, which have exposed the mansion's personnel and various animals and insects to a highly contagious and mutagenic biological agent known as the T-virus.
After navigating a series of underground tunnels, passageways and buildings, the player discovers a secret underground laboratory containing the Umbrella Corporation's experiments, including the Tyrant. In the lab, the player learns that Wesker is a double agent working for Umbrella. Wesker is killed after that by one of the creations. The player finds the other playable character in a cell, put there by Wesker, and manages to get him/her out by activating the self-destruct system. Chris, Jill and the helper character (Rebecca if Chris, Barry if Jill) head for the heliport, but the other two are separated from the player due to more creatures. The player gets up to the heliport and manages to contact Brad and meet the other two survivors there, but they are attacked by the Tyrant, a giant humanoid monster created through prolonged exposure to the T-virus. After the Tyrant is defeated, Chris, Jill and Barry/Rebecca manage to escape the premises in the team helicopter."
In summary:
All that happens is:
1. Helicopter crashes and team is attacked
2. Arrive in the Mansion
3. Search mansion for other members
4. Find lab
5. Tyrant fight
It isn't really detailed and the problem is it would have to be padded out. The game consists of running around solving puzzles pretty much and finding keys to open doors. You can't show that in a movie. Not to mention the game revolves around pretty much one person which is the biggest problem.
It just wouldn't be good to watch. That's probably why they added all those extra characters because there would basically be very little dialogue which is another problem. The character can hardly stand there talking to themselves.
Don't get me wrong i want it to work, but it just can't work without altering it drastically then the same situation arises were people are like "wah wah wah it's not true to the games".
I guess in the case of the first game they could have Jill and Barry team up or something but the film wouldn't still have much going on within it.
It would be literally a series of points connected and in itself would be hard to link as there would be no opposing sort of force. Take for example the Searching for the various team members.
In the games you have to run around doing stuff for ages just so you can gain access to them. In a movie this can't work. You can't have Jill going to Barry "we need a key to get into room x, so we have to trek around looking for a gem to stick in statue y to let us gain access to the key and a yadda yadda".
Without that sort of stuff happening all that happens is: They arrive at the mansion, they walk through like three rooms and find the team member. That's like 5 minutes of screen time. The mansion is hardly crawling with zombies either but the film would become predictable and stupid if say during every transistion sequence to another part of the film that zombies attack, it would become very predictable.
The game story of course is also told through files but that can't work because you can't have the characters walking into the room and reading memos out loud it's just stupid.
You can basically see that there is no possible way for it to work without making changes to the story or at least how the games progressed.
A good film could be made out of it, but it would have to vary a lot from the game.
As for the topic on hand: yes they will ruin Barry.
EDIT: A way that it COULD work is if they based a film on the novelisation of the game.
"Resident Evil: The Umbrella Conspiracy is a 1998 novelization of the 1996 video game Resident Evil, was written by author S.D. Perry as the first book in her series of Resident Evil novels. The novel combines Jill's and Chris scenarios into one narrative and features all five of the main characters (including Barry Burton, Rebecca Chambers and Albert Wesker).
The book also takes liberty with some of the original source materials; the most notable difference being the inclusion of an original character named Trent, an insider from Umbrella Corporation who provides Jill with information about the Spencer Mansion prior to the events of the mansion incident."
Still however they are not 100% faithful adaptations to the game. The book is approx 300 pages so whether that could be turned into a long enough script is debatable.
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Well you could have easily showed some prologue, you could show the othe team prior to Chris and Jill showing up, you could show them fighting the bosses, the lab, the tyrant fight, the additions made in the Remake on GC, the after math when they leave and set up the second one. Hell of a lot better than what they went with.
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Greg the White
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Like I said, RE4 worked because it didn't have to worry about the game's many plot holes and inconsistencies. Leon is in a different country, and Umbrella's gone, with the only returning characters being a brief appearance by Wesker and a corny love interest in Ada. They were able to introduce new, less stupid villains and its own unique little world.
Barry's been on a huge hiatus in the series, why not make a movie where he goes to some way-out location to headbutt zombies/Ganados/whatever.
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Why do they keep making these movies? And more importantly, who keeps going to see them so they earn enough to warrant sequels?
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Greg the White wrote: |
Like I said, RE4 worked because it didn't have to worry about the game's many plot holes and inconsistencies. Leon is in a different country, and Umbrella's gone, with the only returning characters being a brief appearance by Wesker and a corny love interest in Ada. They were able to introduce new, less stupid villains and its own unique little world.
Barry's been on a huge hiatus in the series, why not make a movie where he goes to some way-out location to headbutt zombies/Ganados/whatever. |
So the little midget wearing the revolutionary war clothes wasn't a "stupid villain?"
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joshwoodzy wrote: |
Greg the White wrote: |
Like I said, RE4 worked because it didn't have to worry about the game's many plot holes and inconsistencies. Leon is in a different country, and Umbrella's gone, with the only returning characters being a brief appearance by Wesker and a corny love interest in Ada. They were able to introduce new, less stupid villains and its own unique little world.
Barry's been on a huge hiatus in the series, why not make a movie where he goes to some way-out location to headbutt zombies/Ganados/whatever. |
So the little midget wearing the revolutionary war clothes wasn't a "stupid villain?" |
I meant "stupid villains" as in actually villains who were evil for the sake of being evil, like the ones who would build massive chemical weapon labs in city sewers, sending mercenaries to murder random civilians in a war zone, and kidnapping civilians. You'd think working for a major corporation, they'd have the brains to make their activities less dangerous or conspicuous. Everything they did just made the situations worse for themselves. For as weird as they were, RE4's villains at least had some coherent motivation or reasoning for their acts. Mendez was a puppet of Saddler, but at least he had the sense to question dumb orders and come up with decent plans, Salazar was mentally unstable and duped into thinking he was in control, and Saddler was a smart manipulator who merely wanted money and power. Strange, yes, but at least breakouts happened because they willed it, not because they built secret chemical weapon labs underneath a major metropolis.
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JoshWoodzy
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I think you are critiquing a storyline that was never meant to be dissected like that. The whole point of Resident Evil was to kill zombies, with the over the top B movie plot way on the back burner. That's why it was appealing back in the day. As soon as it starts taking itself seriously with motivated villains, it kind of stops becoming what it used to be and starts becoming an even cheesier video game trying to pass itself as art or gritty. It's not fun anymore.
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