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Posted: Aug 17 2011 04:46 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/08/17/finishing.videogames.snow/index.html

The short of the article, "Games are to long, so people don't play them all the way through. They have lives, and when having to check facebook or send a tweet, people simply don't have time." In conclusion the article welcomes short games and thinks it is the future.

FUCK THAT! Sell me a 4-5 hour game Square...go ahead...see what happens! I dare you.

Posted: Aug 17 2011 04:51 pm

By my measure, any game I bother to finish these days is a good one. The "long" games I can think of in recent memory that fit that criterion include Persona 3, Minish Cap, the Ace Attorney games, Metroid: Zero Mission, the Castlevania games on DS, Izuna, and La Mulana, with Link's Awakening about to join them. The day games like those go away is the day I stop gaming.

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B-b-b-but games are short these days!

You'd be lucky if you got 8-10 hours of story.

On saying that LA Noire took me about 20 hours or so.

Posted: Aug 17 2011 05:33 pm

Alowishus wrote:

B-b-b-but games are short these days!

You'd be lucky if you got 8-10 hours of story.

On saying that LA Noire took me about 20 hours or so.

Don't forget MGS4 which has about 4 hours straight of nothing but movies and about an hour of gameplay...

Posted: Aug 17 2011 05:54 pm

Dragon Age: Origins. Logged around 80 hours on it.

Borderlands? - 50ish

My record is Final Fantasy VII with somewhere around 90.

Joined: Aug 04 2009 Posts: 2515

Slayer1 wrote:

Alowishus wrote:

B-b-b-but games are short these days!

You'd be lucky if you got 8-10 hours of story.

On saying that LA Noire took me about 20 hours or so.

Don't forget MGS4 which has about 4 hours straight of nothing but movies and about an hour of gameplay...

I haven't finished it yet... i may restart it, it's been so long since i played.

Posted: Aug 17 2011 06:11 pm

Atma wrote:

Dragon Age: Origins. Logged around 80 hours on it.

Borderlands? - 50ish

My record is Final Fantasy VII with somewhere around 90.

I think I logged somewhere near 200 Hours in FFVII and about the same in FFXIII.

Posted: Aug 17 2011 06:25 pm

I don't end up finishing most non-linear games. I end up fucking around doing non-linear shit for like 30 hours and then a new game comes out and I play that instead.

Posted: Aug 17 2011 06:34 pm

I only buy games I know will last me at least 20 hours. Short games aren't worth the money they are asking for new games in my opinion. Spent 40 bucks on Red Dead Redemption recently and played it for nearly 40 hours before I got 100% on it and I still have a handful of things to do. I know I've rented a couple games before that even at 5 bucks or whatever I felt like they took so little time to beat that it wasn't worth it.

Posted: Aug 17 2011 06:42 pm

You know, it's amazing to think that SMB3 once retailed for $50, and it can be completed in under 15 minutes.

Posted: Aug 17 2011 07:40 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

I don't end up finishing most non-linear games. I end up fucking around doing non-linear shit for like 30 hours and then a new game comes out and I play that instead.

This. Any game without a concrete path is much less likely to hold my interest for long, especially if there are more choices to explore. Less is more sometimes when it comes to "freedom".

Posted: Aug 17 2011 09:34 pm

I logged nearly 370 hours on FF XII (not sure how many of those were leaving the system on and the TV off while it was auto-leveling). On the other end of the spectrum, I beat Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance in well under two weeks.

Posted: Aug 17 2011 09:51 pm

I expect AT LEAST 2 weeks of play from a game, with moderate gameplay habits. I say this all the time but the Trophy/Achievement system was a brilliant idea. It makes me play games far longer then I would have had they not had them.

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Douche McCallister wrote:

I expect AT LEAST 2 weeks of play from a game, with moderate gameplay habits. I say this all the time but the Trophy/Achievement system was a brilliant idea. It makes me play games far longer then I would have had they not had them.

Agreed man. I went back to Arkham Asylum last night and spent 2 hrs or so FINALLY getting the platinum on it.

Gallery 2 · Posted: Aug 18 2011 12:54 am

The problem is not long games, but rather people having incredibly short attention span.

For fuck's sake, the fact that they'd rather twitter than finish a game should have clued you already.

Posted: Aug 18 2011 06:39 am

Syd Lexia wrote:

I don't end up finishing most non-linear games. I end up fucking around doing non-linear shit for like 30 hours and then a new game comes out and I play that instead.

Yeah me too.

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AtmanRyu wrote:

The problem is not long games, but rather people having incredibly short attention span.

For fuck's sake, the fact that they'd rather twitter than finish a game should have clued you already.

I have clinically diagnosed ADD and yet I will still argue that a game should be long enough to have substance. Granted, I also have OCD which tells me that everything must be perfectly completed... But you never mind that second part. I have the attention span of a 7 year old kid hyped up on sugar.

Perhaps people don't finish games because action dies off or the story isn't compelling enough to finish. Additional reasons included obnoxious play control, or frustratingly hard circumstances.

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Blackout wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

I don't end up finishing most non-linear games. I end up fucking around doing non-linear shit for like 30 hours and then a new game comes out and I play that instead.

Yeah me too.

Agreed on that point. That, or games with a lot of downtime. I try to pick up a JRPG every once in a while, and just end up giving up on it. I hate long cutscenes, repetitive dialogue, watching action that I can't control, and other big complaints with any sort of "cinematic" game, no matter the genre. I eventually get tired of not playing and give up.

Posted: Aug 18 2011 08:47 am

Blackout wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

I don't end up finishing most non-linear games. I end up fucking around doing non-linear shit for like 30 hours and then a new game comes out and I play that instead.

Yeah me too.

It always happens when i play any GTA game.

I don't care for the length of a game. If Monster In My Pocket with 1h length or Samurai Warriors wich i played about 200h. I think people who don't finish a videogame play are just not really interested in videogames, they probably buy 1 game a year.
If thats the main costumer you don't have to be surprised that 90% of all videogames doesn't get finished. Wait...who the fuck cares about this anyway?! This thread is retarded.

Posted: Aug 18 2011 02:37 pm

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Blackout wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

I don't end up finishing most non-linear games. I end up fucking around doing non-linear shit for like 30 hours and then a new game comes out and I play that instead.

Yeah me too.

It always happens when i play any GTA game.

I don't care for the length of a game. If Monster In My Pocket with 1h length or Samurai Warriors wich i played about 200h. I think people who don't finish a videogame play are just not really interested in videogames, they probably buy 1 game a year.
If thats the main costumer you don't have to be surprised that 90% of all videogames doesn't get finished. Wait...who the fuck cares about this anyway?! This thread is retarded.

Your post is retarded, not only is it hard to decipher, but it also makes no sense.

So if someone doesn't finish a video game they don't like video games and buy one game a year, and they are the main customer? If they buy on game a year I'm pretty sure the industry would be out of business. Multiple people have already said they get caught up in multiple titles, therefore not completing them. The fact that they are in the video game section would seem to me that they like video games.

Lastly please don't post in one of my threads or anyone's thread for that matter if you can't make a single complete, coherent sentence.

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Douche McCallister wrote:

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Blackout wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

I don't end up finishing most non-linear games. I end up fucking around doing non-linear shit for like 30 hours and then a new game comes out and I play that instead.

Yeah me too.

It always happens when i play any GTA game.

I don't care for the length of a game. If Monster In My Pocket with 1h length or Samurai Warriors wich i played about 200h. I think people who don't finish a videogame play are just not really interested in videogames, they probably buy 1 game a year.
If thats the main costumer you don't have to be surprised that 90% of all videogames doesn't get finished. Wait...who the fuck cares about this anyway?! This thread is retarded.

Your post is retarded, not only is it hard to decipher, but it also makes no sense.

So if someone doesn't finish a video game they don't like video games and buy one game a year, and they are the main customer? If they buy on game a year I'm pretty sure the industry would be out of business. Multiple people have already said they get caught up in multiple titles, therefore not completing them. The fact that they are in the video game section would seem to me that they like video games.

Lastly please don't post in one of my threads or anyone's thread for that matter if you can't make a single complete, coherent sentence.

I understand the frustration, but English isn't his native language so chill out a bit.

Posted: Aug 18 2011 03:32 pm

I don't finish a lot of games because I just own a lot of games. I play 5 hours of Earthbound here, 20 hours of Fallout there, I mix it up. I play what I feel like. I eventually beat some games, but other I just put back on the shelf if there is no interest. Also, if you two guys keep saying the "R" word; you-know-who will show up like Beetlejuice...

Posted: Aug 18 2011 03:37 pm

GPFontaine wrote:

AtmanRyu wrote:

The problem is not long games, but rather people having incredibly short attention span.

For fuck's sake, the fact that they'd rather twitter than finish a game should have clued you already.

I have clinically diagnosed ADD and yet I will still argue that a game should be long enough to have substance. Granted, I also have OCD which tells me that everything must be perfectly completed... But you never mind that second part. I have the attention span of a 7 year old kid hyped up on sugar.

Perhaps people don't finish games because action dies off or the story isn't compelling enough to finish. Additional reasons included obnoxious play control, or frustratingly hard circumstances.

Yeah there are some things that will guarantee I won't finish a game, stupid controls and frustration. I will almost immediately quit a game that has crappy controls with no way to edit them. There have been a few PC games I've played where the developers ported them from consoles and couldn't be bothered to change it displaying the 360 controls on screen while playing. I'm sitting there like what the fuck button is the A button supposed to be on the keyboard?! Fuck you!

Then you have games where no matter how many times you play something and watch videos you cannot hope to ever beat it. I give those a few tries and then just say fuck it and go do something else, never touching the game again. Usually this happens with RPGs for me, I get to the final boss and find out even though I grinded like fucking crazy I'm still underleveled somehow. This happened with FF X and Dragon Quest VIII for me among others. It makes you wonder how you are supposed to beat them just following the story and not grinding... The other game that pops to mind in this category is that shitty Prototype game. The game was easy mode the whole way and then you get to the final fight and the difficulty went from punching a baby to fighting a dragon with a wooden stick.

Posted: Aug 18 2011 03:59 pm

Douche McCallister wrote:

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Blackout wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

I don't end up finishing most non-linear games. I end up fucking around doing non-linear shit for like 30 hours and then a new game comes out and I play that instead.

Yeah me too.

It always happens when i play any GTA game.

I don't care for the length of a game. If Monster In My Pocket with 1h length or Samurai Warriors wich i played about 200h. I think people who don't finish a videogame play are just not really interested in videogames, they probably buy 1 game a year.
If thats the main costumer you don't have to be surprised that 90% of all videogames doesn't get finished. Wait...who the fuck cares about this anyway?! This thread is retarded.

Your post is retarded, not only is it hard to decipher, but it also makes no sense.

So if someone doesn't finish a video game they don't like video games and buy one game a year, and they are the main customer? If they buy on game a year I'm pretty sure the industry would be out of business. Multiple people have already said they get caught up in multiple titles, therefore not completing them. The fact that they are in the video game section would seem to me that they like video games.

Lastly please don't post in one of my threads or anyone's thread for that matter if you can't make a single complete, coherent sentence.

I apologize.

Posted: Aug 18 2011 04:13 pm

One of the reasons I'm really into shmups on the XBox is because you "finish" them on Day One. Of course, finishing a shmup isn't really an accomplishment, the accomplishment is performing a 1cc (one credit clear) and that takes time and practice. But it's something I can pick up at any time for any amount of time and have fun.

Except Trouble Witches. Trouble Witches sucks.