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is this real? (water cup trick)


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Title: owner of a lonely heart
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PostPosted: Feb 18 2011 09:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Amazing Water Trick! How to Suspend Water Without a Cup!



i think i can understand how this might work, but still seems a bit incredible. thoughts?


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Doddsino
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PostPosted: Feb 19 2011 01:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

I think with that much water, it would take a lot of energy to get it going. It's sort of the same idea as the water tornado. Maybe with a small cup it would be easier.
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PostPosted: Feb 19 2011 02:21 am Reply with quote Back to top

It's obviously fake. If you have distilled water, you can put it and the cup in the freezer just long enough to freeze the outer layer of water, and the inside will still be liquid. That's what's going on here. Eventually the thin layer of ice will melt and the thing will collapse.


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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Feb 19 2011 10:11 am Reply with quote Back to top

Valdronius wrote:
It's obviously fake. If you have distilled water, you can put it and the cup in the freezer just long enough to freeze the outer layer of water, and the inside will still be liquid. That's what's going on here. Eventually the thin layer of ice will melt and the thing will collapse.

Yeah, but think about how many parents this one is going to piss off when they find that their kitchens are destroyed from water damage.

The magic may not be real, but the destruction sure is!



 
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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Feb 19 2011 10:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

This looks like a job for the Mythbusters!
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pineapple
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PostPosted: Feb 19 2011 07:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Amazing regardless if it's fake or not.
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SoldierHawk
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PostPosted: Feb 19 2011 08:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

pineapple wrote:
Amazing regardless if it's fake or not.

I'm with Pineapple. I'm betting that its probably an illusion or magic trick of some kind, but that doesn't make it any less cool, or make it take any less skill. It doesn't appear to be camera or editing trickery of any kind though. I'd love to see this done in person!

I've always been fascinated by illusions, no matter what scale they're on. This may be one of my favorite ones ever! So cool looking.


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PostPosted: Feb 20 2011 07:56 am Reply with quote Back to top

SoldierHawk wrote:
pineapple wrote:
Amazing regardless if it's fake or not.

I'm with Pineapple. I'm betting that its probably an illusion or magic trick of some kind, but that doesn't make it any less cool, or make it take any less skill. It doesn't appear to be camera or editing trickery of any kind though. I'd love to see this done in person!


There was a lot of editing going on there. It wasn't a continous shot from when he turned the cup upside down and pulled the card out to where he twisted off the glass. The liquid water was obviously replaced by the just frozen water as Vald said.

The spinning vortex effect is created by the spinning layer of ice on the smooth surface causing the still liquid water inside to spin and twist as well. You can even see the super thin ice shards for just an instant when it collapses.

I love cool tricks like this but I always hate when people lie and are disingenous about it. I know the guy is probably a magician or something talking himself up, but don't encourage people to do it at home when you don't tell them the secret. They'll just make a huge mess of their kitchen wasting their time. Achieving the perfect thin layer of ice to create that vortex effect is cool enough without lying to make it seem supernatural.

Edit: I just checked the video on Youtube and a lot of commentors have spotted that he has a bunch of CGI project videos on his profile as well as other "suspect" videos. The general consensus there seems to be that he used CGI based on his use of CGI in other videos and trying to pass them off as "totally realz omg" as well.
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Doddsino
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PostPosted: Feb 21 2011 08:02 am Reply with quote Back to top



I like this guy's trick...I tried it and got it on my 4th try!
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PostPosted: Feb 21 2011 08:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

Doddsino wrote:
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I like this guy's trick...I tried it and got it on my 4th try!

Ok... whose grandfather is that behind the mask?



 
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Sarge
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PostPosted: Feb 21 2011 07:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ah, those silly Irish.


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PostPosted: Feb 21 2011 09:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ah, I should have been paying closer attention. Thanks Panda.


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