Title explains it all.

A few examples:

Paper Planes - M.I.A. (second favorite song of all-time)
Rebellion (Lies) - Arcade Fire
Train In Vain - The Clash
Welcome To My Nightmare - Alice Cooper
Summertime Clothes - Animal Collective
Holidae Inn - Chingy
God Only Knows - The Beach Boys
New York Groove - KISS
Psycho Killer - Talking Heads
Dream On - Aerosmith
Pale Blue Eyes - Velvet Underground
How Soon Is Now? - The Smiths
Get Low - Lil Jon
Who Let These Hoes In My Room? - Ludacris

jackfrost wrote:

Ditto. Some of those you have listed I consider musical icons.

Oh well, I don't consider any of them musical icons.

Syd Lexia wrote:

Topic instafails. Aside from Chingy and Lil Jon, and possibly Animal Collective who I've never even heard of, there's not a bad artist on that list.

I'm guessing you're not too into the indie scene, geez, it seems like some of you guys don't know any music or movies unless it has been force fed to you by Hollywood or classic rock radio. You need to do some more exploring.

Cameron wrote:

eatpork wrote: Paper Planes - M.I.A. (second favorite song of all-time) Rebellion (Lies) - Arcade Fire Train In Vain - The Clash Welcome To My Nightmare - Alice Cooper Summertime Clothes - Animal Collective Psycho Killer - Talking Heads Dream On - Aerosmith How Soon Is Now? - The Smiths You consider all of these people bad?

M.I.A is just another dance-pop money grubber with no interest in her own music aside from its profit disguised as an indie artist, Arcade Fire's just another band that desperately wants to please Pitchfork media (you can tell by their overly hipster image), plagued by overproduction and Bruce Springsteen lameness, The Clash are sissies that are no better than AC/DC or any other cockrock band (cockrock = terribly lame music that tries to sound hardcore, but really have no interest in their own art other than profit (yes, I have repeated myself), usually bands from the 1970's who people like Kid Rock and the guys from Nickelback call their inspiration (both uneducated crackers)) Alice Cooper just plain sucks and is a terrible sellout (some of the advertisements he has done are sickeningly desperate), Animal Collective... well, I guess I like Song Tongs, but the rest of their stuff is just pretentious, boring bullshit, Aerosmith are the worst of the worst cock rock bands, lame, lame, lame, Talking Heads, just never got into them, The Smiths were the worst thing to happen to indie music and their godawfulness is still felt today, whiny, no talent hacks.... yes, they all suck.

Klimbatize wrote:

^You need to continue judging people on one or two posts. Be glad we don't.

You guys have done nothing BUT judge me since I got here.

Klimbatize wrote:

eatpork wrote: Klimbatize wrote: ^You need to continue judging people on one or two posts. Be glad we don't. You guys have done nothing BUT judge me since I got here. Examples?

Read the first few posts on this thread starting after mine (if you judge my thread, you judge me). Read the post after mine in the ska thread. Just a couple of examples there.

nihilisticglee wrote:

Lets see, you made a thread that called several well know and popular bands bad. How did you not expect to get a negative response? Ska... yeah, that was a little overboard in my mind, though your post was fairly meaningless and didn't truly add much, three or four days isn't nercoing in my mind and there was no reason to call you on it. That said, the general attitude I have seen from you seems like you think everyone should agree with you and if they don't, then they just don't get. It is a silly attitude that tends not to win ya any friends.

Cause you should respect opinions, or at least I should?

What else am I suppose to say about a genre that has become a haven to rich white kids who smoke too much weed and say they know a black guy?

I don't believe in discussion for discussion's sake, I believe the goal of a forum is to open new opportunities for people to expand their tastes in subjects. I'll admit I'm assertive, but considering Gummo is my favorite movie, I think I let the disagreement go pretty smoothly.

jackfrost wrote:

At this point I would like to hear what you normally listen to. You seem to hate bands because they attempted to be successful and did so.

It's not the sole reason I hate them, but it certainly adds to it. Most of those bands I can simply say "I don't like their music, I think it's mindnumbing child's play", but it goes deeper. There's nothing wrong with being successful, but bands who go out there with the intent on making money shows that they have no respect for the artform (Gene Simmons said himself that music is not art), and to me, that lack of respect shows in their music. But going down to the basis, I just don't like their music. I like Metallica, even though they're some of the worst money grubbers out there.

Captain_Pollution wrote:

Man, I really wish you'd cut that elitism bullshit. I'm only judging what you've said in this thread, not you as a person, but come on. You even said that whole Pitchfork hipster group was lame, but then you keep up the "That band was good up until they got a gold record" mentality that makes the Pitchfork crowd annoying. Also, I won't argue it, I'm just curious. What do you have against the Velvets? Also, I'm trying to think of some for the topic, I'll edit this later.

I don't recall saying those exact words, but if you think about it, there is some credit in an argument like that. Let's say a band goes for 10 years without having one single hit, then all of a sudden they drastically change their sound and all of a sudden everything's more poppy and radio friendly, seems kinda fishy, like they lost respect for the art. Maybe it's just me, but I can hear that most of the time in the music itself.

But I'll tell you what, my real belief is that there's really no such thing as bad music, it's just a matter of what gets to you, the problem with me is that my eclectic tastes seem to garner offense and therefore gives me no one I can relate with. Maybe my frustration causes me to be so elitist. Take pity on me, please.

nihilisticglee wrote:

There is a way to disagree with something without being an elitist about it. For example, there is two different ways I describe The Beatles pending on if I am being a troll among my friends or being respectful of someone's interests. 1. I don't like The Beatles 2. The Beatles were The Jones Brothers of their day See how one is me placing my opinion above others and being a dick while the other is a statement of opinion. That same could be said of this thread. By using better word choice, you can get your message across just as well without being called a dick. Then don't say anything? And then there was the time you called everyone on here tools because you made a topic that was unpopular? This isn't exactly a one time thing.

And calling my thread instafail for my first post isn't being a dick?

That sounds boring.

I called everyone tools because they have a VH1 spoonfed taste for art.

Captain_Pollution wrote:

I didn't mean to say that there's no such thing as selling out, of course there is. I was just criticising the idea that because you're successful it automatically means you suck.

Really, if you read my post, I was more talking about selling out than they automatically suck because they're popular. I don't think I really ever said anything like that, actually.

nihilisticglee wrote:

Guess how most people respond to elitist? By being dicks. Not all that surprising really. And yet, would have drawn less ire than if you did. Funny how that works. See, that is an annoying attitude. Someone, Syd in this case, didn't know Animal Collective, an indie band. Guess what, not everyone is going to know an indie band, even people with broad tastes. If I were to say "You don't know Dead Panda? Geez, it seems like your taste in music is boring hipster trash," I would expect to get bad results. People aren't going to know every single band, signed or not, because music has just gotten that big. I am willing to bet I know a lot of bands you have never heard of, but I don't go around saying that is a bad taste and looking down on you for it. When you go around saying a band is bad around people who like it, be ready to get insulted, and when you are an ass to someone because they dare not know a band you know, be ready to be insulted.

Yes, but you see, Syd drew first blood. I've never said anything to him before, and he went and insulted my thread BECAUSE OF MY TASTE, then I was a dick to him. Now you're just setting double-standards.