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Tebor
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PostPosted: Oct 27 2009 09:32 am Reply with quote Back to top

It was bound to happen. There's just too much content.

Exec: Hulu may charge for access.

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Chase Carey, News Corp.'s president and chief operating officer, said at a conference in New York on Wednesday that subscription fees could come as early as 2010.


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PostPosted: Oct 27 2009 09:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hulu To Be Unpopular And Bankrupt As Early As 2010
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PostPosted: Oct 27 2009 09:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Hulu To Be Unpopular And Bankrupt As Early As 2010

No kidding. I think hulu is great for catching some shows I might have missed, but I don't care enough about a missed show to pay to see it. Get a better business model.


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PostPosted: Oct 27 2009 09:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

At the moment, Hulu is better than NetFlix's Watch Instantly... Yet, I'm paying for NetFlix... If Hulu keeps more shows/films up for longer and hold even more content, I won't mind paying. Ads are negotiable.


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PostPosted: Oct 27 2009 10:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'd willing to watch shows with television-length commercial breaks, but paying? Meh. Also, how would this effect shows that are available dually? For example, FOX stuff can be watched on Hulu, or directly on FOX.com
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PostPosted: Oct 27 2009 10:05 am Reply with quote Back to top

Fuck'em.


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PostPosted: Oct 27 2009 10:08 am Reply with quote Back to top

jerknut wrote:
Syd Lexia wrote:
Hulu To Be Unpopular And Bankrupt As Early As 2010

No kidding. I think hulu is great for catching some shows I might have missed, but I don't care enough about a missed show to pay to see it. Get a better business model.


I agree completely, and wonder how many people acually buy TV episodes from X-Box Live Marketplace?

Hulu got popular by being a free place to watch high quality video of shows and movies, at the cost of limited commercials.

If they start charging, they are not unique anymore. You know what they become? A cable company.
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Tebor
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PostPosted: Oct 27 2009 10:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
I'd willing to watch shows with television-length commercial breaks, but paying? Meh. Also, how would this effect shows that are available dually? For example, FOX stuff can be watched on Hulu, or directly on FOX.com

I assume that a great deal of content will still be free with ads. Shows up on several websites like NBC and ABC will most likely remain free. Public domain movies will remain free.

However, I predict the back log of shows (Doogie Howser M.D. for example) will be among the premium content. Certain movies probably will be too. I really think the catalog will be expanded and there'll be a free and a premium section much like GameTap.

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If they start charging, they are not unique anymore. You know what they become? A cable company.

Not as much. Hulu will not be labeled a cable company because there's no actual cable. It's a database. The same as we don't call NetFlix a cable company though it too charges a monthly fee. Chances are it'll follow a more NetFlix-ian model or better yet the GameTap model. NetFlix is a rental company first and foremost of course and the on demand service is a perk.

To center the new business model on the on demand service will most likely follow a monthly subscription instead of the iTunes model of rent and purchase; iTunes offers content as a vendor. Hulu will most likely not charge per item as iTunes and Amazon have that market cornered already.

I am willing to bet that Hulu will arrange a GameTap-ian model where the few who subscribe will end up paying for the content of the people watching for free. It is in the network's best interests to keep their most recent shows available for free as it helps in ratings in the long run.

However, more revenue needs to come in in order to maintain the considerable bandwidth the site uses. Their advertisers are already limited so adding more commercials probably will not help as the people already paying will not likely want to pay more.


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PostPosted: Oct 27 2009 11:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

Fancast will explode if Hulu starts charging.



 
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PostPosted: Oct 27 2009 11:51 am Reply with quote Back to top

I've never used it, since there's always some other site that pops up first if I can't find what I'm looking for on Youtube.
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Let the anti-Canadian bastards burn.


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PostPosted: Oct 27 2009 03:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Unless they have a streaming commercial free feed to home consoles, they are wasting their time. The content is readily available online elsewhere albeit not the same quality a majority of the time.


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PostPosted: Oct 28 2009 09:22 am Reply with quote Back to top

Berserk007 wrote:
Unless they have a streaming commercial free feed to home consoles, they are wasting their time. The content is readily available online elsewhere albeit not the same quality a majority of the time.

That's become one of the deciding factors for me. The other is that all the content I want is pretty much in one place.

Perhaps they should only charge for their HD content and have more of it. They really haven't been keeping up to date with that.


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PostPosted: Oct 28 2009 01:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I still think YouTube will still be a huge contender in the video market. As long as you can find movies and tv shows on there, the need for Hulu would be absent.
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PostPosted: Oct 28 2009 01:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Danse Macabra wrote:
I still think YouTube will still be a huge contender in the video market. As long as you can find movies and tv shows on there, the need for Hulu would be absent.

So far they don't have the content to hold up, much like Google Video. YouTube has a good business model to make revenue off viral sensations and partnerships, but so far they've been expanding painfully slowly. It'll be a few years before they can even offer a true threat in the market. For what corner in the market YouTube does have is strong enough to sustain itself. Expansion is expected, but I don't see a giant expansion happening unless they get bought out again or make a major partnership with one of the bigger libraries.


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PostPosted: Oct 30 2009 03:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Hulu not switching to a pay site -- rest easy, web watchers

Attention, thrifty PopWatchers: It turns out beloved home of full-lengthy goodness Hulu is not going to start charging after all. A source tells EW that the site’s rumored pay structure would only be in addition to its free content, not instead of it. And a collective “phew” was heard ’round the Internet.

Ahh, sweet relief. I too initially balked at the idea of paying for Hulu, but at a certain point, there are definitely things I’d pay for: Premium content night-of (especially if it was à la carte and not subscription-based), a wider selection of shows, and maybe mobile compatibility. Once upon a time, everyone balked at the idea of paying for TV — uh, hello? It’s free over the airwaves! — but then cable came along, and it was worth getting, so people did. Lightning could strike twice or something, right? Everyone used Napster for a good long time to share music for free, but now plenty of people use iTunes and buy legal copies of songs and albums: again, we pay for some stuff.

Hulu’s main competitors aren’t other paid sites like Netflix (whose streaming options are great, but supplementary to the company’s main DVD model). The site’s rivals are the endlessly accessible — but not legal — video sharing sites. Yeah, lots are riddled with malware or garishly bedecked in noise-making panel ads, but those episodes go up almost immediately, and the breadth of content is almost unbelievable.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/10/29/hulu-free/


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PostPosted: Oct 30 2009 03:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Margaret Lyons, we meet again.

Thanks for posting that username!


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Tebor wrote:
Margaret Lyons, we meet again.

Thanks for posting that username!

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PostPosted: Apr 23 2010 06:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Hulu pushes forward with $10 subscription service

This sucks!

Hulu, the popular online site for watching television shows, plans to begin testing a subscription service as soon as May 24, according to people with knowledge of the plans.

Under the proposal, Hulu would continue to provide for free the five most recent episodes of shows like Fox's "Glee," "ABC's "Lost" or NBC's "Saturday Night Live." But viewers who want to see additional episodes would pay $9.95 a month to access a more comprehensive selection, called Hulu Plus, these people said.

Hulu, which ranks second only to Google's YouTube in terms of monthly video streams in the U.S., said it turned an operating profit in its two most recent quarters. The 2-year-old service, which is owned by media giants News Corp., NBC Universal and the Walt Disney Co., generated more than $100 million in revenue from advertising.

Still, that doesn't come close to matching the revenue that these companies are accustomed to raking in from their more established businesses. That's why Hulu is under pressure from its owners to collect a subscription fee to both bolster revenue and train viewers to pay for online access to professionally produced content.

Television executives don't want to suffer the same fate as music industry or newspapers, which saw users flock to free access to songs, stories and classified ads online -- and revenues plummet.

In the past, Hulu primarily offered shows that were broadcast over the air for free. But now, as the major networks are trying to extract payments from cable operators and television station groups, they can no longer justify offering the same shows online for free. Shows on Hulu also carry commercials, however there are fewer spots there than on regular television. Ultimately, Hulu is expected to adopt the same commercial loads as network television.

Hulu did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/04/hulu-pushes-forward-with-995-subscription-service.html & http://current.com/entertainment/movies/92392529_hulu-pushes-forward-with-10-subscription-service.htm


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PostPosted: Apr 23 2010 09:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

This is exactly why sites like Sidereel flourish.

Targeted advertisements on Hulu should net the company much more money than TV spots. Someone hasn't done the math correctly and sorted this shit out.



 
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PostPosted: Apr 23 2010 09:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Soon they'll need to change their name to Who?lu.


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