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Syd Lexia wrote:

Are WW/PH/ST really all the same Link, or are you just saying that cuz of the art style? He doesn't age at all! Are we to believe Link has three fantastical adventures between the ages of 12 and 13?

Also, don't the Oracle games take place concurrently?

Also, no one gives a shit about Four Swords.

Phantom Hourglass is a direct sequel to Wind Waker. Spirit Tracks is a timeline sequel. Link and Tetra find a new continent at the end of PH and name it Hyrule, and Spirit Tracks takes place 100 years later in New Hyrule.

The Oracle Games are sequels to each other if you want them to be. They play as stand alone adventures, but if you beat one, it gives you a password that you can put into the other and it changes the story a bit to make it a sequel, and the final boss becomes Ganon. Believe it or not, there were originally supposed to be three Oracle games, but it proved too difficult to implement the three games, two are sequels, play in any order system via passwords and the GBC. Supposedly, one game would correspond to each piece of the Triforce. Also, Miyamoto wanted part of the plot of the games to be that there was originally a fourth piece of the Triforce (the missing middle), but someone in the distant past ate it. Take that as you will.

No one gives a shit about Four Swords.

Posted: Dec 23 2011 03:08 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

Are WW/PH/ST really all the same Link, or are you just saying that cuz of the art style? He doesn't age at all! Are we to believe Link has three fantastical adventures between the ages of 12 and 13?

Also, don't the Oracle games take place concurrently?

Also, no one gives a shit about Four Swords.

Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass are the same Link. They take place within one year of one another. Spirit Tracks is a century after Phantom Hourglass with a new Link, but Nico the pirate is still kicking around and he's old as heck, and he talks about the WW/PH Link.

Oracle games take place one immediate after another in either order.

Posted: Dec 23 2011 03:17 pm

Yeah, I should have specified that to me, direct sequel = same Link.

Posted: Dec 23 2011 10:13 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

I am ashamed to say, I have never played Link's Awakening. I wasn't big into the GB/GBC. Handheld gaming didn't appeal to me until college, when I had large lectures classes where teachers didn't care if you paid attention and wouldn't confiscate your system. Unlike elementary/high school.

Link's Awakening DX is on the 3DS Virtual Console. There's still time.

Posted: Dec 23 2011 10:15 pm

There would have still been time, anyway. I've played through Pokemon Red at least 10 times. I do not own the cartridge, and no one has ever lent it to me.

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Four swords sure sends my sword skyward

Posted: Dec 24 2011 07:12 pm

So where does the Legend of Zelda Puzzle Swap panel fit in the timeline?

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... Wow.

Posted: Dec 27 2011 09:11 pm

http://www.glitterberri.com/content/zelda_series/hyrule_historia/timeline.png

The timeline with the translations from the book.

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Syd Lexia wrote:

There would have still been time, anyway. I've played through Pokemon Red at least 10 times. I do not own the cartridge, and no one has ever lent it to me.

Never beaten it or Blue.

Posted: Dec 27 2011 10:44 pm

I don't understand where this "here is defeated" timeline is coming from. What event of OoT is that refering to?

Title: Comic Author Joined: Dec 12 2008 Posts: 1179

sidewaydriver wrote:

I don't understand where this "here is defeated" timeline is coming from. What event of OoT is that refering to?

I'm with him, I'm most curious about that as well. As the self-appointed expert on this topic, Puff, what's the explanation?

Posted: Dec 30 2011 09:33 am

Fernin wrote:

sidewaydriver wrote:

I don't understand where this "here is defeated" timeline is coming from. What event of OoT is that refering to?

I'm with him, I'm most curious about that as well. As the self-appointed expert on this topic, Puff, what's the explanation?

Near as I can figure that's Nintendo saying "What if Link failed in OoT? This timeline is what would result." I've played every one of the canon Zelda titles (no CD-i sadly) and the death of the hero is never referenced...

Yeah it's a bit of a cop-out on their part, but at least their explanation makes sense within the mythology of the games that follow that branch. The question really will be is if future games in the Hero Defeated timeline will make reference to OoT's Link getting a sword in the gut.

Posted: Dec 30 2011 10:02 am

Maybe it stems from the player getting a game over. If you're game over, Ganondorf wins and we get LttP. Everybody wins!

Posted: Dec 30 2011 10:10 am

I want an alternate timeline game where Link fails in Zelda II.

Posted: Dec 30 2011 02:08 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

I want an alternate timeline game where Link fails in
Zelda II.

Ganon returns and with nobody to defeat him, the gods flood hyrule.

Posted: Dec 30 2011 02:36 pm

Oh, snap.

Here's a question. Which Zelda is the Zelda from Zelda 2? Is it the LTTP Zelda? The OOT one?

Posted: Dec 30 2011 03:24 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

Oh, snap.

Here's a question. Which Zelda is the Zelda from Zelda 2? Is it the LTTP Zelda? The OOT one?

That's tricky. If you read the Zelda II instruction manual, it says that long ago when Hyrule was a single country (so post-unification war), the king maintained order using the Triforce. His son only inherited part of the triforce and quested to find the other pieces. Some magician told the prince that his sister knew something about it, but she wouldn't tell him. The magician put her into an eternal slumber despite the prince's protests. The magician was slain but it was too late to save the princess. The prince orders all future daughters of the royal line to be named Zelda.

Of course, this doesn't ever appear in any game. So it could just be a thing between games.

Also, Skyward Sword totally messed with the "all female children shall be named Zelda" thing by adding another layer to it...

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LordHuffnPuff wrote:

Fernin wrote:

sidewaydriver wrote:

I don't understand where this "here is defeated" timeline is coming from. What event of OoT is that refering to?

I'm with him, I'm most curious about that as well. As the self-appointed expert on this topic, Puff, what's the explanation?

Near as I can figure that's Nintendo saying "What if Link failed in OoT? This timeline is what would result." I've played every one of the canon Zelda titles (no CD-i sadly) and the death of the hero is never referenced...

Yeah it's a bit of a cop-out on their part, but at least their explanation makes sense within the mythology of the games that follow that branch. The question really will be is if future games in the Hero Defeated timeline will make reference to OoT's Link getting a sword in the gut.

My two cents:

When Link goes back into the past to go into the well or Spirit Temple, he creates a new timeline. He leaves the old timeline, which now has no Link in it, so there is no one to stand up to Ganon. Essentially, not having the tools to proceed, Link must abandon that timeline to destruction while he journeys to the past to arm himself.

Posted: Dec 30 2011 05:20 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

Oh, snap.

Here's a question. Which Zelda is the Zelda from Zelda 2? Is it the LTTP Zelda? The OOT one?

For a moment I thought the Skyward Sword Zelda was going to be that Zelda. It would have been cool if they did that but of course they didn't because it would resemble some shred of continuity.

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Official scan here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/MarinaRay/20120101211835Official_Zelda_Timeline.jpg

http://www.zeldawiki.org/Timeline

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There are a shitload of Zelda games where either previous villains are revived, or a god is resurrected. Also, bows and boomerangs.

Posted: Jan 03 2012 07:44 pm

So Hyrule Historia has confirmed that the Hero's Shade from Twilight Princess is the Hero of Time (Link from OoT/MM). So that makes three consecutive games for that particular Link.

Also, that means we have a canon instance of Link speaking. Whoh.

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I was going to post about this.

Fascinating, 3 timelines!