Syd Lexia wrote:

The Court, if I recall, is still conservative, and if they can push through a repeal before the election, I'm not sure if that would be a good thing or not. On the one hand, it would make Obama look like an asshole. On the other hand, it would enrage his supporters and energize them.

They won't repeal it before the election. In their formal decision to take the case, they've hinted that they might not be able to rule on the individual mandate until it takes effect, which is legalease for "We're not dealing with this right now."

In any case, precedent is on Obama's side with the case. The court is split with one swing voter and even when it was more conservative they've supported interstate commerce legislation that was technically unconstitutional.

I'm not entirely sure why Republicans have such a hardon for Obamacare. It was essentially what they were proposing back in the 90s when Clinton was pushing for public healthcare. The idea is conservative enough: flood private companies with new customers to drive down costs, and force regional monopolies to compete against one another.

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I feel like the Republican establishment needs to take a definitive stand against the Tea Party Movement. Romney getting the nomination will help this. But they definitely need to pick another establishment candidate as his running mate. The message to the Tea Party needs to be this: You're either with us, or you're with Obama, and if you're not with Obama, then take your fucking medication, fall in fucking line, and vote for fucking Romney.

I'll confess that I'm a Democrat myself, but a pretty moderate one. I voted for Obama and I'll do it again, but I wouldn't have been unhappy if McCain had one. I can't say that for most of the crowd now. The movement of the Republican Party into the fringe is making operating a stable political system difficult as all hell, so the establishment needs to put a stop to it.

Republicans are good people. It's important for both sides of the fence to run government so that good, compromised legislation can be made. It's not good for a fringe group to capture a political party, move its moderates to the right and stonewall all legislative movement by not compromising.

That's because the Tea Party, like the OWS movement, is full of dumbasses.

You certainly would have done better. That woman was a dumbass. IS a dumbass. When you enter a VP debate and make Biden look like an intellectual, there's a problem there.

The real thing that did in McCain was the 2008 crisis. There wasn't much chance that any Republican could have won after that.

Cattivo wrote:

Although, hardline democrats were of course immediately turned off by her. That developed into an almost disturbing level of hate.

Okay, no. She earned it all with her borderline hate speech and blatant lies. Remember death panels? That crap she drummed up about how the healthcare bill would kill her retarded child because he wasn't valuable to society? Nothing even remotely similar to that was ever proposed, but Palin ran with it anyway.

Dems like me hate her because of shit like that. The woman lies through her teeth constantly and without any regard for reality.

Well, getting back to the subject at hand, I think that Herman Cain's campaign was the political version of The Producers. It was meant to be a joke/con scheme and it accidentally became hugely popular.

I actually don't agree with Bachmann being lumped in there. I think she's genuinely that crazy, and very serious about politics.

Not to double post, but he's out.

The dream is dead.

hahaha. You win.

It looks like Gingrich is the flavor of the week this time. I'll at least give him credit for having a brain in his head.

^I'd read that there. It pretty much sums up my thoughts on the Cain campaign.

It was all a joke.