I actually think F-Zero has aged extremely well, if that game had multiplayer (like the japanese only F-Zero 2) than it would probably still be my most played racing game. Just play it - and you doubters will see how awesome it still is to play!

About the DKC-games, I somehow agree that the first one should be on the list, mostly because of the impact it had, but also because it simply felt more polished. However, even though both the second and third game definitely improved a lot of things, like now having meaningful secrets to find and in general more creative level design, I feel that their focus on other types of levels than the standard palttforming fare makes them more a chore to play than the original. Also, the second game has a much darker tone than the first one, which in my opinion does not suit the series at all, and both of them removed the awesome Cranky-stages (or made them much less awesome) were you would simply be beaten up by Cranky for how poor a player you were compared to him. However, I do like the way the map-system evolved, and the third game actually has an almost Super Mario World-esque map-system, which is awesome. Also, Dixie is great to play with, so that is an improvement as well, but overall I think the first game deserves the top spot - just in front of the third, followed by the second last.

Super Mario Kart has the same rubber-band AI, and I also think this is a problem in the more newer games in both series. This is definitely annoying, but I would say the good clearly outweighs the bad in this case, as the sense of speed and control in unparalleled. Also, F-Zero GX is to dam hard, fuck that shitty game.

Uniracers is a good and innovative game, but not top 10-material in my opinion.

Vert1 wrote:

That list is missing the baddest dude in the room: Konami! Contra3, Gradius 3, Legend of the Mystical Ninja, Axelay, Super fuckingsaiyan Castlevania 4, --who could ask for more. lists are dumb/ taterfyrings wrote: Also, F-Zero GX is to dam hard, fuck that shitty game. ..."shitty game"? Pump the brakes.

Well, the game is not shitty of course, but just unlocking every track in that game is a nightmare (and I still haven't unlocked the Arcade-tracks), and I also did not really care about the music which is an important part of F-Zero. So stoked for a Wii U-sequel though.

Oh. and I agree about Konami. Contra 3 is definitely top 10 material, and Super Castlevania 4 is not far behind either.

Super Mario World is not at all overrated, I would rather say it is underrated by lots of people today since its "just another 2d mario-game". It might not be the most creative snes game, but it is by far the one I replay the most, and no other plattform game comes close to the level design, control and sheer awesomeness that is Super Mario World. Personally I would have Super Mario World as number 1, but I can understand why people would put A Link to the Past, Super Metroid and Final Fantasy III over hit. However, 4th spot is the least it should get on a snes-list imo.

Alowishus wrote:

1. DK coins 2. Team-up ability 3. Bonus coins 4. An actual indication of where you missed secrets (DKC3 by the flags and the DK symbol beside level name) 5. Item system and currency for items 6. Subtle differences, like landscapes, the bramble levels where the brambles kill you, the ghost levels where the ropes are ghosts which fade in and out, the difference in enemies, the differences in bosses which all don't require you to just jump on them. Only slight changes: why fix what isn't broken? I like DKC but i feel that the following two games are a lot better.

I agree with most of these points (however, the first game also had indication on where you needed to go for secrets, the !-mark after the name of the level!). However, as I wrote earlier in this thread, what I prefer about the first game is that there is more focus on pure plattforming stages, compared to especially the second which took the barrel-stages totally overbord. While variation is fine, I felt that to many of the levels in DKC2 had some kind of irritating theme, which just worked to slow the game down. Also, the atmosphere is really dark in the second game, which does not fit the series at all imo. The third game did make up for both these mistakes somehow, and also has a much improved map-system, but the game feels a bit less inspired than the two first.

So in conclusion:
-The first game came first
-The first game has the most fitting graphics for a game like this, with nice and colourful graphics, which gives it the best atmosphere by far (while the second game, on the other hands, has by far the worst atmosphere as it is much to dark for its own good).
The first game has the best humor, represented by Cranky Kong's great tip-giving and Donkey-beating stages.
-The first game has the best music (but this is really close with the second)
-The first game has the most fun to play levels.
-The second game has the most creative, but also the most slow levels
-The second and third game has much better collectibles which are actually meaningful
-The second and third game both have a great secret world to play after getting all collectibles, and also a better ending if you get it.
-The second and third game both have Dixie which is a joy to play
-The third game has the best map-system

However, the most important of these points are really the level-design, and the first game trumps its successors there. So I would say the ranking goes like this:

DKC>DKC3>DKC2