As much as I hate to admit it, the stereotypes about modern rap are pretty dead-on in the sense that a vast majority of them are drum machine beats with music stolen music behind some guy doing poetry about how awesome he is. It's worse because The Beastie Boys and Run DMC at least had some energy and fun when they did it. Nowadays, the 50 Cent-style mumbling is the king, and it just sounds like someone with palsy placed in a recording room.
So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind.
JRA
Joined: Sep 17 2007
Location: The Opium Trail
Posts: 3475
Posted:
Apr 20 2008 11:22 pm
A bunch of video game nerds on an 80's nostalgia website talking smcak about a faction of street culture of the black community gives me images of the Bloods and the Crips sitting down at a round table talking about how shitty Final Fantasy III (or 6) is.
"Kefka? Man that n**** just need some weed!"
There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant.
crookshow
Title: Donkey Kong Savage
Joined: Mar 29 2008
Location: bay area, CA
Posts: 573
Posted:
Apr 20 2008 11:47 pm
This pretty much sums up the way I feel about mainstream rap these days. Track is called "Pray For Me" by Reks, dope emcee out of Boston...
@bomberman: you dislike people who say "hip-hop" is dead", yet you like soulja boy? funny, because rappers like him are exactly the reason why people are saying it...
and @scamrock, being a former death row fan, are you familiar at all with Crooked I?
scamrock
Title: Space Bastard
Joined: Jan 26 2008
Location: Planet Druidia
Posts: 2392
Posted:
Apr 21 2008 01:36 am
[quote="crookshow]and @scamrock, being a former death row fan, are you familiar at all with Crooked I?[/quote]
No, I'm not. I know he was a member of Death Row. But that's all I know. I wasn't really listening to their stuff at the time. I'll check him out to see if he is any good. I usually don't like a lot of the guys from Death Row after Interscope broke ties with them. I especially don't like that fake ass Tupac wannabe Tha Realest. I like how he tought it'd be a good idea to rip into Eminem. Dumbass.
crookshow
Title: Donkey Kong Savage
Joined: Mar 29 2008
Location: bay area, CA
Posts: 573
Posted:
Apr 21 2008 01:54 am
Yea, he was on death row for about 4 years, and while he recorded at least 2 full albums, they were never released because of problems within the label (ie Suge always being locked up). Anyway, he's my favorite rapper as my alias might suggest. Here's a pretty cool sample track to check out:
This was the finale to a 52 week series he did starting last year and ending just a few weeks ago called "Hip Hop Weekly". Every week he put out a "freestyle" track over someone else's beat, usually rocking it better than the original artist themselves, and put it out on the internet for a free download. The finale is a 10 minute track where he raps over a medley of tracks by deceased rappers as a tribute. This includes many classic instrumentals from the likes of 2Pac, Eazy E, Notorious B.I.G., Big Pun, Big L, J. Dilla, Jam Master Jay and even Nirvana. If you like what you hear, you can download the rest of the tracks in this series for free from his website:
Also, most of them can be found on youtube as well, if you don't want to download the tracks to your hard drive. Let me know what you think...
Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
Joined: Sep 01 2007
Location: That Rainy State
Posts: 10376
Posted:
Apr 21 2008 06:34 pm
Cattivo wrote:
The only kind of music I cannot listen to.
How can talking to a beat be music? Where's the singing?
I always viewd it as a modern form of poetry or storytelling providing that the story being told gives me intersting visualzations ti imagine, IE Brotha Lynch Hung tells some crazy stories in his rap and it makes for a cool imagining for me, Soulja Boy telling you to crank it and "superman that ho" however, does not.
Burt Reynolds
Title: Bentley Bear
Joined: Apr 07 2008
Location: California
Posts: 1399
Posted:
Apr 24 2008 06:19 pm
Rap is just like any other genre of music 99% is shit and the other 1% is good. All the people that criticize it usually hear whats on the radio because its not their main interest, so they don't bother looking for maybe the lesser known good stuff. It's definately not my favorite genre, but there is some good stuff out there. Also, I hate it when people say its not music because they aren't singing. It still has a rhythm and melody, and I gurantee we all like a song or two where the singer isn't exactly "singing". I know tons of music I like isn't textbook singing, or at least i wouldn't know how to transcribe the lyrics to a score. It's the same as somebody saying they don't like metal because all they've heard is nickleback and linkin park.
Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
Joined: Sep 01 2007
Location: That Rainy State
Posts: 10376
Posted:
Apr 24 2008 08:53 pm
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Rap is just like any other genre of music 99% is shit and the other 1% is good. All the people that criticize it usually hear whats on the radio because its not their main interest, so they don't bother looking for maybe the lesser known good stuff. It's definately not my favorite genre, but there is some good stuff out there. Also, I hate it when people say its not music because they aren't singing. It still has a rhythm and melody, and I gurantee we all like a song or two where the singer isn't exactly "singing". I know tons of music I like isn't textbook singing, or at least i wouldn't know how to transcribe the lyrics to a score. It's the same as somebody saying they don't like metal because all they've heard is nickleback and linkin park.
Agreed except people calling Nickelback and Linkin Park Metal, that's just a bit odd.
Burt Reynolds
Title: Bentley Bear
Joined: Apr 07 2008
Location: California
Posts: 1399
Posted:
Apr 25 2008 04:05 am
Quote:
Agreed except people calling Nickelback and Linkin Park Metal, that's just a bit odd.
Maybe that was a bit extreme, but you get the idea... But I have heard linkin park called metal by folks around her sadly.[/quote]
Ross Rifle
Title: Rock N Roll God
Joined: Oct 29 2006
Location: Chilliwack, BC
Posts: 4844
Posted:
Apr 25 2008 01:46 pm
I can see how someone could call Linkin Park metal, but Nickelback? Puh-leeze.
Though a friend of mine did perfectly describe them when she said they were a non-metal Pantera for fags.
I'm very selective in my rap choices and consider most (hell, probably all) mainstream rap to be ridiculous bullshit that people must be brain damaged to listen to.
"Let that be a lesson to you, your family and everyone you've ever known..."
"Thanks to denial, I'm immortal!"
username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
Joined: Jul 06 2007
Location: phoenix, az usa
Posts: 16135
Posted:
Apr 25 2008 11:33 pm
Black Zarak wrote:
I'm very selective in my rap choices and consider most (hell, probably all) mainstream rap to be ridiculous bullshit that people must be brain damaged to listen to.
i would say most of it is annoying BS that gets away from the original reason hip-hop was invented (revolution etc etc) but some of the new stuff is inventive and very fun to listen to (gnarls barkley + strange fruit project for example)
Klimbatize wrote:
I'll eat a turkey sandwich while blowing my load
scamrock
Title: Space Bastard
Joined: Jan 26 2008
Location: Planet Druidia
Posts: 2392
Posted:
Apr 25 2008 11:45 pm
username wrote:
Black Zarak wrote:
I'm very selective in my rap choices and consider most (hell, probably all) mainstream rap to be ridiculous bullshit that people must be brain damaged to listen to.
i would say most of it is annoying BS that gets away from the original reason hip-hop was invented (revolution etc etc) but some of the new stuff is inventive and very fun to listen to (gnarls barkley + strange fruit project for example)
I like Gnarls Barkley.
Ross Rifle
Title: Rock N Roll God
Joined: Oct 29 2006
Location: Chilliwack, BC
Posts: 4844
Posted:
Apr 25 2008 11:46 pm
Yeah, I don't care what anyone says, that "Crazy" song is fuckin FUN.
Yeah, I don't care what anyone says, that "Crazy" song is fuckin FUN.
I've got that song, but I always forget about it so I hardly ever listen to it anymore.
username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
Joined: Jul 06 2007
Location: phoenix, az usa
Posts: 16135
Posted:
Apr 26 2008 12:14 am
smiley faces is good. my fave actually on the st. elsewhere CD
my fave on the new cd so far: who's gonna save my soul.
Klimbatize wrote:
I'll eat a turkey sandwich while blowing my load
Black Zarak
Title: Big Coffin Hunter
Joined: Feb 01 2006
Location: Phyrexia
Posts: 4098
Posted:
Apr 26 2008 12:35 am
No, I love Gnarls Barkley, I guess they are a bit more mainstream than I think (I never listen to the radio) And god I love "Crazy" too. Their new album is really slick too, though I kinda feel both albums start out real catchy and then kinda loose steam towards the end, both still good though. I also really like MF DOOM (and his various other personas) and obviously DangerDoom as well. Del Tha Funky Homosapien is good too.
"Let that be a lesson to you, your family and everyone you've ever known..."
"Thanks to denial, I'm immortal!"
Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
Joined: Sep 01 2007
Location: That Rainy State
Posts: 10376
Posted:
Apr 26 2008 04:26 pm
Mainstream rap / hiphop / R&B always tricks me into listening to it, I turn the radio on and start listening to it and about a quarter of the way into the song I look at the radio slap my forehead ala "i could have had a V8", exclaim 'waitaminit, this sucks!" and change the station.
crookshow
Title: Donkey Kong Savage
Joined: Mar 29 2008
Location: bay area, CA
Posts: 573
Posted:
Apr 26 2008 09:31 pm
Danger Doom was sick. I'm a big fan of Danger Mouse and his various projects (even the non hip-hop stuff like Pelican City and The Good The Bad and The Queen), he can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned.
King
Title: CTE
Joined: Apr 27 2008
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Posts: 1506
Posted:
May 04 2008 12:25 pm
I think that to say rap is horrible, or to say that all of it is of the highest quality are both fallacies. Both new and old, there as been some shit forced upon us on all genres of music. Right now, similiar to the revival of classic metal groups in the late 90's, early 00's, there is a resurgence of great older hip hop acts. There is new Wu-Tang, new KRSONE, new DasEFX, Busta Rhymes has gone back to his older style on his new tracks, and the list continues. Also, I would say that if you are into backpack, indie, or neo soul, then you will find some exceptional music. Granted, even a music junkie like me, loving all genres, gets sick of rappers only talking about there rims, jewelry, houses, and so on. Hell, Bone Thugs dropped a new album last year. And as already mentioned, Dangermouse, Gnarls Barkley, MF Doom, and shit CeeLo's collaborations with both as well as Nas. In the end, in almost any genre if you want great music, it's out there, you just may have to look a bit harder then your local records store, radio station, or MTV.
